Porsche Surface Coated Brake (PSCB)

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What is it? What are the benefits? Is it worth the money? All thoughts welcome and appreciated :)

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Mainly resists disc corrosion and wear of the pads and discs over time, lasting longer than conventional cast iron discs and staying much cleaner so your wheels won’t be coated in brake dust. Whether that is worth the extra cost is up to you. It depends how hard you drive and use the brakes and how long you plan to keep the car.
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Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
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Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:47 am Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
I’d assume you’d need to do all 4 though if you did that? I would have thought that mixing disk types could cause some odd braking behaviour.
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Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:47 am Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
This is my reasoning for spec’ing the PCCB as I intend on keeping the car for a good length of time (and don’t want to have to incur the cost of replacement)
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OmniCognateSnr wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:55 am
Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:47 am Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
I’d assume you’d need to do all 4 though if you did that? I would have thought that mixing disk types could cause some odd braking behaviour.
Yes, I agree. Could be worse than mixing tyres!. :?
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MH82 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:10 am
Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:47 am Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
This is my reasoning for spec’ing the PCCB as I intend on keeping the car for a good length of time (and don’t want to have to incur the cost of replacement)
Nice. That’ll make your Macan something of a rarity. :) Rest of your spec?
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Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:47 am Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
Is there any factual evidence on how long they are lasting in normal road use? The coating is tungsten carbide, one of the hardest materials there is so I wouldn’t be surprised if in many cases they last the life of the car. Certainly longer than many owners will have their cars.
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Nuclear Nick wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:27 am
Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:47 am Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
Is there any factual evidence on how long they are lasting in normal road use? The coating is tungsten carbide, one of the hardest materials there is so I wouldn’t be surprised if in many cases they last the life of the car. Certainly longer than many owners will have their cars.
Difficult to find, Porsche’s opinion is 30% longer than standard brakes. I think the coating is something like 0.1mm thick….
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Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:20 am
MH82 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:10 am
Wing Commander wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:47 am Some have expressed concern that, even though the PSCB discs should last longer than the standard ones, they’ll be very much more expensive to replace. A few folks are planning on maybe substituting standard discs for the PSCB ones, when they need replacing.
This is my reasoning for spec’ing the PCCB as I intend on keeping the car for a good length of time (and don’t want to have to incur the cost of replacement)
Nice. That’ll make your Macan something of a rarity. :) Rest of your spec?
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNGM5SC6 - though I’m still hoping for the steering column in leather option to appear……
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