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Post by Dewi »

Not harsh at all.

The 2.0 is grossly underpowered for a Porsche.

Drive any other Porsche and put your foot down and off it goes like a bat out of hell, do the same with a 2.0 and a VW Passat or BMW 118D will out accelerate it.

On the open road where there is traffic, you are stuck, in an S, GTS or Turbo you can make safe and quick progress like you should be able to do in any Porsche.
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Well I have to say your opinion is so unjust. I’ve read with laughter Col Lamb your consistent bashing and undermining of the 2.0 Macan because you feel some sort of superiority by owning a ‘Turbo’. I’ve just bought a Gen 3 Macan and find the power and drive fantastic. This is after 10 years in 3.0l diesel BMW’s and most recently a 3.0 RR Velar. I do 14,000 miles a year on trips mostly less than 25 miles and the Macan is a joy to drive. Sure there are quicker Macan’s than mine but in the real world the extra power would be mostly wasted. I get the desire for a quicker more powerful car from time to time but no need to put down what is still a fabulous overall package. Yes the Turbo/Gts is amazing but so is the base 2.0l , just in a different way. And so far I’ve certainly never been ‘stuck’ behind any traffic. If you are being out paced in one by a 118d (which my wife drives) maybe you just don’t know how to get the best out of if by some margin. Just saying

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Post by Tracky »

Dewi wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:21 pm Not harsh at all.

The 2.0 is grossly underpowered for a Porsche.

Drive any other Porsche and put your foot down and off it goes like a bat out of hell, do the same with a 2.0 and a VW Passat or BMW 118D will out accelerate it.

On the open road where there is traffic, you are stuck, in an S, GTS or Turbo you can make safe and quick progress like you should be able to do in any Porsche.
Well I have to say your opinion is so unjust. I’ve read with laughter Col Lamb your consistent bashing and undermining of the 2.0 Macan because you feel some sort of superiority by owning a ‘Turbo’. I’ve just bought a Gen 3 Macan and find the power and drive fantastic. This is after 10 years in 3.0l diesel BMW’s and most recently a 3.0 RR Velar. I do 14,000 miles a year on trips mostly less than 25 miles and the Macan is a joy to drive. Sure there are quicker Macan’s than mine but in the real world the extra power would be mostly wasted. I get the desire for a quicker more powerful car from time to time but no need to put down what is still a fabulous overall package. Yes the Turbo/Gts is amazing but so is the base 2.0l , just in a different way. And so far I’ve certainly never been ‘stuck’ behind any traffic. If you are being out paced in one by a 118d (which my wife drives) maybe you just don’t know how to get the best out of if by some margin. Just saying
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Post by MTUK »

Have to say..... I didn't buy a GTS / Turbo as I just didn't see them as superior for daily driving. I drive a particular route frequently ..... A16 to Kings Lynn & onto Sheringham. The route is a total bore and very few places to use power in 100 miles of driving.

My SD suits me perfect. 42mpg & enough power when I need to use it. I drive 18-20k miles per annum . The base 2.0 would be fine for UK roads
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Post by BanZ »

Col Lamb wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:24 pm
bobajob wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:28 pm
cra4pie 2.0
A bit harsh, I don't think you can call any Macan cra4pie. If I'd just spent £50k plus on a Macan and then read this comment I'd be pretty fed up. One of the many great things about a Macan is the breadth of it's abilities with a wide range of specs to match - from a daily family car to a high performance specialist vehicle.
Not harsh at all.

The 2.0 is grossly underpowered for a Porsche.

Drive any other Porsche and put your foot down and off it goes like a bat out of hell, do the same with a 2.0 and a VW Passat or BMW 118D will out accelerate it.

On the open road where there is traffic, you are stuck, in an S, GTS or Turbo you can make safe and quick progress like you should be able to do in any Porsche.
This is just nonsense.

Latest bmw118D spec is here https://www.parkers.co.uk/bmw/1-series/ ... -5d/specs/ - 0-60 - 8.2s

Most of us know about Macan 0-60 times - gen 3 base does it in 6.2 seconds a referesher on gen3 can be found here https://www.carwow.co.uk/porsche/macan/ ... -date#gref

So a clear 2 seconds faster 0-60 which is a country mile in real world terms and faster than a huge amount of things on the road even if we could all drive at a cars limit.

Not sure what the need is to put the car down that much given it’s a great car and today we have 3 choices available depending how much performance we want, and what suits our needs & budget.

If we are going to get snobby about what a Porsche should be we should remember the engine in all 3 versions of the Macan are shared with other VW/Audi cars. To me it doesn’t diminish this vehicle as a Porsche as I think the handling, suspension and gearbox are what really set it apart most - that and PDLS - which I’d never have specced if it wasn’t included in my car but is awesome :D
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Post by TheTraveller »

MTUK wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:43 pm Have to say..... I didn't buy a GTS / Turbo as I just didn't see them as superior for daily driving. I drive a particular route frequently ..... A16 to Kings Lynn & onto Sheringham. The route is a total bore and very few places to use power in 100 miles of driving.

My SD suits me perfect. 42mpg & enough power when I need to use it. I drive 18-20k miles per annum . The base 2.0 would be fine for UK roads
Totally agree. The 0 to 60 time for the SD, is very near the same time as my 968 (Porsche), just a point second or two difference. And it's never been above 90mph(ish) anywhere. That goes for European motorways too. Plan the drive and enjoy it. :) :)
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Sweetmeister wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:45 pm
estymasko wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:25 pm I specced those same 21 inch RS Design wheels on my build too but have noticed they've now been removed from the configurator! I'm not a fan of the other alloy options, so I'm at a road block now. Hoping this is just a temporary glitch and not a permanent decision from Porsche..
Do you mean the 21’ GT wheels? The RS ones are still there,it’s the GT wheels that have been removed.👍
My bad, yeah the GT wheels. Gutted as they were the only wheels I loved, and now I feel like I'm forced to settle on wheels that are just "meh" to me. The other options aren't bad, but just none that I like with my spec
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estymasko wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:24 pm
Sweetmeister wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:45 pm
estymasko wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:25 pm I specced those same 21 inch RS Design wheels on my build too but have noticed they've now been removed from the configurator! I'm not a fan of the other alloy options, so I'm at a road block now. Hoping this is just a temporary glitch and not a permanent decision from Porsche..
Do you mean the 21’ GT wheels? The RS ones are still there,it’s the GT wheels that have been removed.👍
My bad, yeah the GT wheels. Gutted as they were the only wheels I loved, and now I feel like I'm forced to settle on wheels that are just "meh" to me. The other options aren't bad, but just none that I like with my spec
Fingers crossed mine will come with the GT design wheels in black. We have gone for Miami Blue with contrast black. My personal choice now the GT’s have gone would be Gentian blue with the RS wheels. Lovely combo imo.
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Post by estymasko »

mistercesq wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:23 pm
estymasko wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:24 pm
Sweetmeister wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:45 pm

Do you mean the 21’ GT wheels? The RS ones are still there,it’s the GT wheels that have been removed.👍
My bad, yeah the GT wheels. Gutted as they were the only wheels I loved, and now I feel like I'm forced to settle on wheels that are just "meh" to me. The other options aren't bad, but just none that I like with my spec
Fingers crossed mine will come with the GT design wheels in black. We have gone for Miami Blue with contrast black. My personal choice now the GT’s have gone would be Gentian blue with the RS wheels. Lovely combo imo.
Same spec as me! The GT design wheels were the only decent looking wheels available in black that matched well with the black detailing I'd added to the rest of the car. There's not a single black wheel option available now, I believe! So may have to settle with the silver 911 Turbo wheels. I had those on my Miami Blue 718 Cayman a few years ago.
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Dewi wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:21 pm Not harsh at all.

The 2.0 is grossly underpowered for a Porsche.

Drive any other Porsche and put your foot down and off it goes like a bat out of hell, do the same with a 2.0 and a VW Passat or BMW 118D will out accelerate it.

On the open road where there is traffic, you are stuck, in an S, GTS or Turbo you can make safe and quick progress like you should be able to do in any Porsche.
Well I have to say your opinion is so unjust. I’ve read with laughter Col Lamb your consistent bashing and undermining of the 2.0 Macan because you feel some sort of superiority by owning a ‘Turbo’. I’ve just bought a Gen 3 Macan and find the power and drive fantastic. This is after 10 years in 3.0l diesel BMW’s and most recently a 3.0 RR Velar. I do 14,000 miles a year on trips mostly less than 25 miles and the Macan is a joy to drive. Sure there are quicker Macan’s than mine but in the real world the extra power would be mostly wasted. I get the desire for a quicker more powerful car from time to time but no need to put down what is still a fabulous overall package. Yes the Turbo/Gts is amazing but so is the base 2.0l , just in a different way. And so far I’ve certainly never been ‘stuck’ behind any traffic. If you are being out paced in one by a 118d (which my wife drives) maybe you just don’t know how to get the best out of if by some margin. Just saying
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My first Porsche was a 2.0 Macan. Back then (2016) I put up with derisory comments from Col (and others) who seem to love to bash the 2.0 Macan. In my view, the 2.0 represents about 95% of what you get with a GTS or Turbo, at a bargain price. In the real world, no sane driver gets near the limits of what a GTS or Turbo could do, on UK roads. And I bet the profit margin on a Turbo is way, way bigger for Porsche than on a 2.0, so who has the last laugh? ;)
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Wing Commander wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 11:44 am
Dewi wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:21 pm Not harsh at all.

The 2.0 is grossly underpowered for a Porsche.

Drive any other Porsche and put your foot down and off it goes like a bat out of hell, do the same with a 2.0 and a VW Passat or BMW 118D will out accelerate it.

On the open road where there is traffic, you are stuck, in an S, GTS or Turbo you can make safe and quick progress like you should be able to do in any Porsche.
Well I have to say your opinion is so unjust. I’ve read with laughter Col Lamb your consistent bashing and undermining of the 2.0 Macan because you feel some sort of superiority by owning a ‘Turbo’. I’ve just bought a Gen 3 Macan and find the power and drive fantastic. This is after 10 years in 3.0l diesel BMW’s and most recently a 3.0 RR Velar. I do 14,000 miles a year on trips mostly less than 25 miles and the Macan is a joy to drive. Sure there are quicker Macan’s than mine but in the real world the extra power would be mostly wasted. I get the desire for a quicker more powerful car from time to time but no need to put down what is still a fabulous overall package. Yes the Turbo/Gts is amazing but so is the base 2.0l , just in a different way. And so far I’ve certainly never been ‘stuck’ behind any traffic. If you are being out paced in one by a 118d (which my wife drives) maybe you just don’t know how to get the best out of if by some margin. Just saying



My first Porsche was a 2.0 Macan. Back then (2016) I put up with derisory comments from Col (and others) who seem to love to bash the 2.0 Macan. In my view, the 2.0 represents about 95% of what you get with a GTS or Turbo, at a bargain price. In the real world, no sane driver gets near the limits of what a GTS or Turbo could do, on UK roads. And I bet the profit margin on a Turbo is way, way bigger for Porsche than on a 2.0, so who has the last laugh? ;)
Sadly the GTS frat boys seem to just like starting a fight, and have the attitude that has sullied my view of Porsche drivers for so many years. Unless you are a Porsche nerd all 3 variants look identical and have the same interior options. The only real difference is the engine ( and the badge ). The base Macan is as fast as a hot hatch, which is plenty fast enough to get you into and out of trouble and in all other respects is the same as an S or a GTS. We all have our own requirements for a car, and as they are our own they can not be wrong.
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