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Re: Porsche order books temporarily closed amid WLTP changes
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:18 pm
by Dandock
It’s also interesting to note that prices for S/H diesels are increasing whilst those for petrol models are falling.
. And that HM Gov spokesman/minister is saying they still see diesel as part of the plan going forward.
Re: Porsche order books temporarily closed amid WLTP changes
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:43 pm
by Mike and his Macan
Of course there is still going to be a demand for diesel, but don’t want to risk the manipulation risk. Iv read a few reports saying they the price for second hand diesels seem to be holding, and there are some bargains to be had for the lucky second hand owners.... shame about the first ones.
Re: Porsche order books temporarily closed amid WLTP changes
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:14 pm
by Nosmo
I'm no techy but engines have continued to develop (at pace) since the introduction of the catalytic converter in the late 80s and early 90s. No-one seems to be complaining now on being down on power etc. Could it be that the new WLTP will allow the more creative (engineering minded manufacturers) to create some new technologies and or see the introduction of some of the (expensive) F1 technologies around combustion and fuel efficiency?
Re: Porsche order books temporarily closed amid WLTP changes
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:31 pm
by Miopyk
I was going to order Macan No.3 (GTS No.2) in the next few weeks but might hang on now until there's a bit more clarity. We're already decided that the Cayman is a keeper as its the last normally aspirated 6 cylinder boxer Porsche produced and with PSE on equals many exotica on noise entertainment alone. The world is certainly changing and depending on your point of view not necessarily for the better.
Re: Porsche order books temporarily closed amid WLTP changes
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:43 pm
by Dandock
Nosmo wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 6:14 pm
I'm no techy but engines have continued to develop (at pace) since the introduction of the catalytic converter in the late 80s and early 90s. No-one seems to be complaining now on being down on power etc. Could it be that the new WLTP will allow the more creative (engineering minded manufacturers) to create some new technologies and or see the introduction of some of the (expensive) F1 technologies around combustion and fuel efficiency?
Absolutely. I think F1 and WEC are the perfect examples of tech innovation driven by ever tighter regulation. The other rather sad example is war!
Re: Porsche order books temporarily closed amid WLTP changes
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:17 pm
by Nosmo
Dandock wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 6:43 pm
Nosmo wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 6:14 pm
I'm no techy but engines have continued to develop (at pace) since the introduction of the catalytic converter in the late 80s and early 90s. No-one seems to be complaining now on being down on power etc. Could it be that the new WLTP will allow the more creative (engineering minded manufacturers) to create some new technologies and or see the introduction of some of the (expensive) F1 technologies around combustion and fuel efficiency?
Absolutely. I think F1 and WEC are the perfect examples of tech innovation driven by ever tighter regulation. The other rather sad example is war!
but true.
Re: Porsche order books temporarily closed amid WLTP changes
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:21 pm
by Mike and his Macan
At least we drive fast cars to get away from it !
. And that HM Gov spokesman/minister is saying they still see diesel as part of the plan going forward.