Fairynuff wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:24 pm
Col Lamb wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:48 pm
Because its a goddamn awful ride with no PASM and 21” and no OPC in the right mind would have such a combo.
test driving a Macan with the wheel size, seating, suspension and steering that you intend to order.
Of course I had a test drive and that was in what they had available nearest my spec (including 21" wheels, not including 3 litre engine). I live in the middle of 3 Porsche showrooms each 30 miles away so it's not a simple matter of keep nipping round there. I've been to each one to see different things not available all in the same place. The whole (Porsche) buying experience compared to other manufacturers (for me) has been poor (understatement). I was about to give up when I went to the 3rd dealer and found a helpful salesman who'd only recently joined Porsche (hence he was helpful) (I am his first sale). He has been very helpful but I accept he's learning. I asked him about PASM and he told me that "without PASM the car is fixed in comfort mode" i.e. if I don't intend to use sport mode I am wasting my money. Reading your reply to post on PASM it sounds like he is wrong?
This car manufacturer's core values are all about the driving experience, why would they make a car with options (21" wheels) with suspension that can't handle them? No other car manufacturer has so many extras, costing so much money, that's OK but for all that money I expect that if they offer extra A and know it won't function well unless you include extra B that they would put them together. What are we paying for?
It is a fact..... Porsche cars sell themselves.
Many on this forum waited 18 months for their Macan and as you a finding there were not any new Macans for a long period in 2018.
In fact before 2018 some OPCs stopped taking GTS orders because they could not give even a rough delivery date. When I was looking for my first Macan an S had a 15 month wait where an SD was at least 6 months.
If you think you have been hard done by, go into Porsche at Wilmslow, their clientel are the Cheshire Set where a £100k+ Porsche is small change to them so the SEs do not have to work at it.
Back to your experience, the SE was so wrong, without PASM it is as being in Comfort mode, that is so far off the actuals.
Porsche make basic stripped down Macans because many buyers are not driving enthusiasts, they are those with plenty of disposable income who want a car to shuttle the kids to school, to do the shopping with, you know its the Chelsea Tractor set, they who simply want to drive a badge, it is a second car for the City.
A Macan is also stripped bare for the newbies to the marque who can just afford a £50k car and as such it is an entry vehicle which compared to other marques it is not much of a premium in cost, its only when a few extras are added that it becomes a comfortable car to be in but by that time the newbie has driven a Macan it becomes to late the hook is embedded and they are reeled in.
It is the same with a 911, most are weekender cars, I would be interested if the 911 owners here use their 911’s on a daily commute on a regular basis day in day out.
The thread in the Order section, what to specify, is still very valid.
What follows is my own opinion on what I suggest is included or given very serious consideration. Please take time out to read it.
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My suggestion of the minimum inclusions in the specification of any Macan that I would buy is these:-
14 or 18 way seats .
Basic non GTS 8 way seats have a flat back and are not as comfortable as the upgrades, GTS 8 way seem more comfortable than standard, however do test drive a Macan fitted with the 8 way seats if considering retaining them.
LED lights .
LEDs are a quantum leap improvement over Xenons, they also include the adaptive headlight function.
PASM.
Gives adjustable suspension which results in a smoother ride and better handling capabilities, this really is the key inclusion to have to get the best ride and handling in a Macan.
20" wheels.
A personal choice, 20" gives a good compromise on looks, handling and kerb management.
PS+.
Lightens steering load at parking speeds then progressively reduces to zero assist at road speeds.
Spare wheel.
Plus two purchased cans of sealant / inflator gives options in the event of a flat and especially an unrepairable/damaged tyre/wheel.
Reversing camera.
Rear quarter vision is poor, to check out yourself in a test drive by parallel parking the demo car, if funds allow then Surround Camera is even better.
Interior light pack,
Replaces bulbs with LEDs for a more pleasing interior look and the all important illuminated mirrors.
The above are the key inclusions or extras that I recommend you specify.
Other popular inclusions are:-
Pano sunroof, lightens a dark interior
Tinted glass, purely for looks and it enhances the stealth look with blacked out trim
SD mirrors, an aesthetic choice often fitted due to the questionable quality of standard mirror mount.
Colour matched side blades, enhances look and will aid cleaning.
Roof rails, its an SUV so kind of expected, but looks equally great without
Heated seats, useful.
Heated steering wheel, a favourite of mine that gets used more than the heated seats.
Sports Chrono, gives dial in top centre of dash plus launch control and more aggressive gearbox and throttle maps.
Porsche Sports Exhaust, do note that PSE is an aural performance addition only and has no power increase benefits.
Leather upgrades, an almost universal upgrade on non GTS Macans.
Smoking pack, covers the hole in front of drinks holders.
ACC, gives adaptive cruise control which is far better than standard, it also includes Porsche Active Safe braking system which is not fitted unless ACC is specified.