How much extra would you pay for a BEV Macan?

[kmacuk]

Reading about the new Audi e-Tron with pricing from: £79-95K. That’s a whole lot of cash for an EV and a massive premium when compared to the equivalent ICE; this was one of the reasons I went for a petrol GTS. I was anticipating a price premium, but not at this kind of level. I would not spend this this much on an Audi never mind a Porsche. Presumably this pricing is an indicator of what to expect for the all new EV Macan - maybe?
Based on this I am thinking I made the correct choice, I will be holding until EV pricing matches current ICE performance cars – I am thinking in the next 4 to 5 years there will be a lot of changes.


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[bennachie]

(sadly) in your dreams..................... EVs are the decimal currency of the 21st century................

[ScotMac]

£79-95K would only buy you a cheap Porsche

But yes, know what you mean...

[JBA]

I agree with you to hold on to an ICE performance car. The BEV has some way to go to be an ideal proposition to match the media hype.

[jaffacake]

EVs are hurting manufacturers. It was predicted that battery pricing would fall a LOT faster than it has and it's proving very hard to produce EVs with a decent range with an acceptable price.

At the moment, EVs are convenient to get the mnfr CO2 footprint down - avoiding a hefty EU fine. It's cheaper to sell EVs at a loss than to pay the fine, so this makes some EV pricing fairly artificial right now.

Additionally, the tax relief on EVs is crazy and, as a company car, they work out a lot cheaper. Hence lots of people jumping into Tesla Model S and Taycan as there is 0% BIK. This won't last forever though.

Who knows how this will pan out but I started shopping for a Macan as soon as I heard the next model would be EV only. As well as not having the exhaust noises I wanted, I couldn't see it being at all affordable for a private (non-business) owner.

[bennachie]

Wot 'e said...................... (sadly)

[kmacuk]

EVs are hurting manufacturers. It was predicted that battery pricing would fall a LOT faster than it has and it's proving very hard to produce EVs with a decent range with an acceptable price.

At the moment, EVs are convenient to get the mnfr CO2 footprint down - avoiding a hefty EU fine. It's cheaper to sell EVs at a loss than to pay the fine, so this makes some EV pricing fairly artificial right now.

Additionally, the tax relief on EVs is crazy and, as a company car, they work out a lot cheaper. Hence lots of people jumping into Tesla Model S and Taycan as there is 0% BIK. This won't last forever though.

Who knows how this will pan out but I started shopping for a Macan as soon as I heard the next model would be EV only. As well as not having the exhaust noises I wanted, I couldn't see it being at all affordable for a private (non-business) owner.

Agree with all of this: EV Macan will have a significant jump in price, be heavier and not sound as good. As a private buyer no gain on the BIK for me either. I will go EV at some point, but I need battery tech to improve: twice the range and half the weight I think is the Gen II battery tech goal for me. What I really want to take off is hydrogen cell technology - much better than BEVs, I still think battery is not the end solution, just a stepping stone technology. Agreed, manufacturers are pushing EVs to make CO2 targets, rather than making cost effective ICE replacement cars.

[davewf]

I would not pay a premium for a BEV Macan, look at the VW id 3 that is priced around the diesel Golf price as it should be. But to be honest because of the charging infrastructure or lack of it, only viable BEV is a Tesla which has its own charging network.

Network will naturally get better over time but its just not there yet.

Have a watch of Harrys Garage latest video on the X5 Hybrid [url] also his video on the ipace is interesting [url]

[Taz]

A friend of mine rented a car this weekend which turned out to be a Fiesta Mild Hybrid. It had a 1 litre engine producing 115ps and a small electric motor that charged an equally small battery that just gave additional boost when accelerating . There was no ‘just electric’ function.

He did a check up and it would have cost nearly £20k new - hell’s teeth, £20k for a Fiesta with an electric motor just so that it can be classified in a lower tax band !

[jaffacake]

Yes, the new Toyota Yaris is hybrid only now, starts at £21k.