Just taking out the electrically adjusted seats ( bung in carbon fibre bucket seats), the sunroof and all the leather would probably make it quite a bit lighter. Possibly add carbon fibre bonnet and wheels etc.
But the bigger question would be why the hell would you bother? The Macan is a luxury SUV, making all those changes would give you the worst of both worlds IMO.
Macan 'T'
-
- Posts: 1428
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:39 am
Guessing same reason as they've done it for all the other models. Plus, what other brand has a lightweight performance SUV? I can't think of one of the top of my head.
Ex -
Macan Turbo (Mamba Green)
Audi RS6 (Misano Red)
Audi S4 (Silver)
Audi S3 (Imola Yellow)
Peugeot 309 goodwood (Green)
Peugeot 306 gti-6 (Silver)
Peugeot 205 gti (Ltd edition Sorento Green)
Macan Turbo (Mamba Green)
Audi RS6 (Misano Red)
Audi S4 (Silver)
Audi S3 (Imola Yellow)
Peugeot 309 goodwood (Green)
Peugeot 306 gti-6 (Silver)
Peugeot 205 gti (Ltd edition Sorento Green)
- Wing Commander
- Posts: 19922
- Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:43 pm
- Location: Wiltshire
Rarecolour wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:29 am Guessing same reason as they've done it for all the other models. Plus, what other brand has a lightweight performance SUV? I can't think of one of the top of my head.
The other models are sports cars = 911, Boxster & Cayman
There is no Cayenne or Panamera T.
Simon
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
- Wing Commander
- Posts: 19922
- Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:43 pm
- Location: Wiltshire
OmniCognateSnr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:25 am Just taking out the electrically adjusted seats ( bung in carbon fibre bucket seats), the sunroof and all the leather would probably make it quite a bit lighter. Possibly add carbon fibre bonnet and wheels etc.
You can already spec a base Macan without leather or a sunroof and with basic seats (not 14 or 18-way). And carbon fibre bonnet & wheels would be super-expensive and not fit with the ethos of a T model.
Simon
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
- Wing Commander
- Posts: 19922
- Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:43 pm
- Location: Wiltshire
Rarecolour wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:44 am They should stick the 2.9 engine in, then go lightweight any where they can. Would be a fun car to drive, and not having a Turbo model out yet it won't be stepping on any toes being quicker.
The ‘T’ sports cars in the Porsche range are all built around the base engine (so the 2.0 in the case of the Macan) and they fit in price between the base model and the S. So a Macan with the S engine (but quicker and more costly) would not match the thinking of the other T models...
The 911 T had the option of no rear seats, no PCM and lightweight glass in the rear. Can’t see that happening with the Macan... But we’ll see...
Simon
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
But if you were at the present time developing a lightweight performance SUV, you would not start from the current Macan whose weight base is 1st Q5 with none of the weight loss developments of the two subsequent generations of Q5.Rarecolour wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:29 am Guessing same reason as they've done it for all the other models. Plus, what other brand has a lightweight performance SUV? I can't think of one of the top of my head.
I see any Macan T as just a marketing gimmick, a bit light the GTS ( ) . Unfortunately for Porsche by the time you made the two obvious handling improvements to the base, adding PASM and say 20 wheels, the price gap between Base and S of £5520 at list cost for T to S would be about £2000. I cannot see many takers for a T over an S even with a few styling changes and a bit of a giveaway like lowered suspension thrown in.
2019 Macan S Porsche code PKW8WKI8
-
- Posts: 1428
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:39 am
YetWing Commander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 amRarecolour wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:29 am Guessing same reason as they've done it for all the other models. Plus, what other brand has a lightweight performance SUV? I can't think of one of the top of my head.
The other models are sports cars = 911, Boxster & Cayman
There is no Cayenne or Panamera T.
Ex -
Macan Turbo (Mamba Green)
Audi RS6 (Misano Red)
Audi S4 (Silver)
Audi S3 (Imola Yellow)
Peugeot 309 goodwood (Green)
Peugeot 306 gti-6 (Silver)
Peugeot 205 gti (Ltd edition Sorento Green)
Macan Turbo (Mamba Green)
Audi RS6 (Misano Red)
Audi S4 (Silver)
Audi S3 (Imola Yellow)
Peugeot 309 goodwood (Green)
Peugeot 306 gti-6 (Silver)
Peugeot 205 gti (Ltd edition Sorento Green)
- Wing Commander
- Posts: 19922
- Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:43 pm
- Location: Wiltshire
Rarecolour wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:28 pmYetWing Commander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 amRarecolour wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:29 am Guessing same reason as they've done it for all the other models. Plus, what other brand has a lightweight performance SUV? I can't think of one of the top of my head.
The other models are sports cars = 911, Boxster & Cayman
There is no Cayenne or Panamera T.
Like I say, we’ll see... But it would require a significant change in direction of the T ethos at Porsche...
Would love to know if the person who told you about the forthcoming Macan T has any more info...
Simon
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
I suppose you could take rear seats out, weld the rear doors shut, lower it loads, reduce roof line, take out the front diff then sell it like that or in fact something like a cayman TWing Commander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:38 pmRarecolour wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:28 pmYetWing Commander wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 am
The other models are sports cars = 911, Boxster & Cayman
There is no Cayenne or Panamera T.
Like I say, we’ll see... But it would require a significant change in direction of the T ethos at Porsche...
Would love to know if the person who told you about the forthcoming Macan T has any more info...
On order
GT4 RS
Current
992 S
Macan.2 S
928S4
Modified Lotus Exige V6
Seat Ibiza 1.0 (115ps) DSG Excellence Lux(dog’s!)
Jag Mk2 3.4
Ex
981 Boxster S
GT4 RS
Current
992 S
Macan.2 S
928S4
Modified Lotus Exige V6
Seat Ibiza 1.0 (115ps) DSG Excellence Lux(dog’s!)
Jag Mk2 3.4
Ex
981 Boxster S
What they could do is slot in the Golf R engine - 235 kw (316 hp) and 420 NM torque and add a few bling things ( 20”) wheels, sports chrono and price it half way bewteen the base and the S and voila a desirable T. With the new S engine the performance gap between the base and S has grown a bit to warrant another version in between. Keep in mind the S is 85 kgs heavier than the base so a T could be a lively performer without outperforming an S.
2022 Macan S ordered PNEGHKV4
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 20 Replies
- 4898 Views
-
Last post by dammitjanet
-
- 69 Replies
- 31837 Views
-
Last post by Wing Commander
-
- 11 Replies
- 1449 Views
-
Last post by Wing Commander
-
- 42 Replies
- 5109 Views
-
Last post by PJV997
-
- 28 Replies
- 26296 Views
-
Last post by Tracky