GTS standard sports suspension versus ‘no cost option’ of normal adaptive air suspension ?

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Hello all.Would appreciate any advice on the pro’s (or con’s) of opting out of taking the standard sport air suspension (-10 mm) on the GTS in favour of the no cost option ‘normal adaptive air suspension’ (+10 mm) ? I just read the new Pistonheads Macan 2022 GTS review (Sept 1st) where they state going for the no-cost option of ‘normal air suspension’ (rather than the standard GTS sport -10mm) suspension “ is a better compromise”.
Any views on this please ? (I’ve just ordered a GTS with standard (-10 mm) GTS air suspension,prefer comfort over OTT sportiness so thinking maybe I should revert to the (normal adaptive air suspension). Advice appreciated !
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-dri ... view/44629

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Personally, I don’t believe I’d be able to tell the difference of 10mm lowering. It doesn’t seem to make much difference on the air suspension on my new Turbo, but I’ve only had this car for 3 weeks, so still learning. Adjustment of the ‘stiffening/damping’ of the suspension on the other hand, definitely makes a difference.

Edit: Just learned from the good to know app, the lowering button drops the suspension by 20mm.
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one thing to bear in mind is, at the moment, if you change the air spec you’ll probably end up adding a substantial delay to your delivery date.
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Unless Porsche have changed how air suspension works there is a switch to lower the air suspension setting on my Macan by -10mm
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Mwillia wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:05 pm Hello all.Would appreciate any advice on the pro’s (or con’s) of opting out of taking the standard sport air suspension (-10 mm) on the GTS in favour of the no cost option ‘normal adaptive air suspension’ (+10 mm) ? I just read the new Pistonheads Macan 2022 GTS review (Sept 1st) where they state going for the no-cost option of ‘normal air suspension’ (rather than the standard GTS sport -10mm) suspension “ is a better compromise”.
Any views on this please ? (I’ve just ordered a GTS with standard (-10 mm) GTS air suspension,prefer comfort over OTT sportiness so thinking maybe I should revert to the (normal adaptive air suspension). Advice appreciated !
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-dri ... view/44629
I’ve read several reviews now, and all of them apart from the piston heads one stars that the standard sports air suspension is more than adequate in comfort mode. So I’d keep standard one rather than risk delays.
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Have had standard air for 6 years, just perfect.
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IMHO nobody has done a proper comparison test on the suspension choices yet. For First generation and facelift cars, all air suspensions ride 10mm lower than steel. The GTS (on both steel and air) rides 15mm lower than the suspension on other cars.

For 2022 models, the S on air suspension rides 15mm lower than an S on steel (taken from Technical Data sheet on configurator). The 2022 GTS rides 25mm lower than an S on steel. Opting for "normal" air suspension means it still rides 15mm lower than an S on steel. All 2022 MY cars ride 3mm lower than their predecessors (I doubt anyone will notice the difference).

The reason for my opening comment is that nobody has properly compared the stiffness of the new GTS air suspension with that on the first facelift GTS or the 2022 S air suspension. It was the early Porsche statements that the 2022 GTS suspension would be 10-15% stiffer than the 2020-2021 GTS air suspension that has put the cat amongst the pigeons. My 2020 GTS air suspension in "Comort" is slightly stiffer than my SD steel suspension was in "Sport". That's just a "bum on seat" feel. The wheel size on both of my Macans is the same at 20". Would an increase in stiffness of 10-15% be too much? I don't know but I find the "Sport" setting a little too stiff.

For a prospective buyer to find out for him/herself they will have to wait until their local OPC has an S demonstrator on air and a GTS demonstrator or at least wait until a GTS has been reviewed on UK roads.
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Col Lamb wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:22 pm Unless Porsche have changed how air suspension works there is a switch to lower the air suspension setting on my Macan by -10mm
That switch is certainly still there on the 2020MY GTS Col. The comparisons in this thread are for air suspension in its standard setting.
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gasgas1 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:50 am Have had standard air for 6 years, just perfect.
The suspension stiffness rates on "Gen3" cars was changed over "Gen2" and "Gen1"
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Early reviews of the Gen 3 GTS suggested that anything other than normal (comfort mode) would not cope well with UK roads. The reviewers found the suspension firm but ok on German roads, but raised a question mark regarding some of the UK road surfaces.
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