A family member that works in logistics at JLR said things are getting worse, not better, so the current 2nd hand car prices are here to stay for the next few years until supply can rise to meet demand again. Having shopped around before deciding on the Macan, the wait times for everything is still generally 6 months +
Factor in everything from the middle of next year will have a built in speed limiter, this generation of cars might be very desirable.
Crazy used prices
Note that speed limiters will come with an on/off buttonsamandrew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:29 am A family member that works in logistics at JLR said things are getting worse, not better, so the current 2nd hand car prices are here to stay for the next few years until supply can rise to meet demand again. Having shopped around before deciding on the Macan, the wait times for everything is still generally 6 months +
Factor in everything from the middle of next year will have a built in speed limiter, this generation of cars might be very desirable.
All very well until your insurance states you're not covered if you turn it offsd1985 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:40 amNote that speed limiters will come with an on/off buttonsamandrew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:29 am A family member that works in logistics at JLR said things are getting worse, not better, so the current 2nd hand car prices are here to stay for the next few years until supply can rise to meet demand again. Having shopped around before deciding on the Macan, the wait times for everything is still generally 6 months +
Factor in everything from the middle of next year will have a built in speed limiter, this generation of cars might be very desirable.
Previous Porsches - 944, 928, 986, 981
Macan S on order
Macan S on order
I’ll pay for the more expensive insurance optionsamandrew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:06 amAll very well until your insurance states you're not covered if you turn it offsd1985 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:40 amNote that speed limiters will come with an on/off buttonsamandrew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:29 am A family member that works in logistics at JLR said things are getting worse, not better, so the current 2nd hand car prices are here to stay for the next few years until supply can rise to meet demand again. Having shopped around before deciding on the Macan, the wait times for everything is still generally 6 months +
Factor in everything from the middle of next year will have a built in speed limiter, this generation of cars might be very desirable.
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If it's available to turn off as supplied by the manufacturer, and information so far says that it will at least for some time, then insurance will still be valid. Most unlikely some insurers will insist that it stays on as they won't do much business.samandrew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:06 amAll very well until your insurance states you're not covered if you turn it offsd1985 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:40 amNote that speed limiters will come with an on/off buttonsamandrew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:29 am A family member that works in logistics at JLR said things are getting worse, not better, so the current 2nd hand car prices are here to stay for the next few years until supply can rise to meet demand again. Having shopped around before deciding on the Macan, the wait times for everything is still generally 6 months +
Factor in everything from the middle of next year will have a built in speed limiter, this generation of cars might be very desirable.
Nick
Defender 90 V8
991.2 C2 GTS
Macan Turbo - sold
BMW K1300S, BMW R1250 GSA
Defender 90 V8
991.2 C2 GTS
Macan Turbo - sold
BMW K1300S, BMW R1250 GSA
Agreed it may never happen, but who knows, I imagine it will creep in to policies over time
It's still not clear to me if even with the limiter turned off, it may still beep at you and display warning messages.
It's still not clear to me if even with the limiter turned off, it may still beep at you and display warning messages.
The ETSC only recommends a “full on/off switch” for the limiters should be included “to aid public acceptance at introduction”, indicating it intends to push for even stricter rules in the future. While it would be possible to override the ISA by pushing hard on the accelerator, the system would be activated every time the car is started.
The ETSC’s recommendations also stipulate that “If the driver continues to drive above the speed limit for several seconds, the system should sound a warning for a few seconds and display a visual warning until the vehicle is operating at or below the speed limit again.” Once the car returns to or below the speed limit, the limiter would automatically reactivate.
Previous Porsches - 944, 928, 986, 981
Macan S on order
Macan S on order
On German marques, it may well beep and annoy you.samandrew wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:20 pm Agreed it may never happen, but who knows, I imagine it will creep in to policies over time
It's still not clear to me if even with the limiter turned off, it may still beep at you and display warning messages.
The ETSC only recommends a “full on/off switch” for the limiters should be included “to aid public acceptance at introduction”, indicating it intends to push for even stricter rules in the future. While it would be possible to override the ISA by pushing hard on the accelerator, the system would be activated every time the car is started.
The ETSC’s recommendations also stipulate that “If the driver continues to drive above the speed limit for several seconds, the system should sound a warning for a few seconds and display a visual warning until the vehicle is operating at or below the speed limit again.” Once the car returns to or below the speed limit, the limiter would automatically reactivate.
The last Alfa Romeo I had though (147 GTA) didn't even beep if you'd left your seatbelt off.
Gotta love those crazy Italians, it'll be a long time until they accept speed limiters...
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Reflecting high demand, and a long lead time for Taycans...?
Simon
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
Sold: 2016 Rhodium Silver Macan 2.0
Sold: 2013 Platinum Silver 911 (991.1) C2
Sold: 2017 Carmine Red Panamera 4
Mine: 991.2 Carrera T Racing Yellow 06/04/2018
Wing Commander wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:52 pmReflecting high demand, and a long lead time for Taycans...?
46 used approved Taycans in OPCs so i dont think they are short of group stock
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