Hi Johnd,johnd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:26 amBut weren't the differences due to the loss of a turbo evident from power or torque figures? Certainly I wouldn't suggest that someone should blindly opt for a 'new' engine just because it's described as new and updated and also that eg a 10mg/kg drop in CO2 is unlikely to be the decisive factor in deciding to change. But if the power delivery is materially enhanced in a facelift model as evidenced by published data then it's difficult to see how that wouldn't add to the fun factor. (Though whether or not this is likely to happen in the facelift is another matter altogether.)JBA wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:29 am I am not suggesting that new engines from Porsche in a facelifted version of the Macan will be inferior (hopefully the opposite) but I am wary of the politics and economics that are forcing car manufacturers to dial down the fun elements of driving ie speed & power.
Yes agree that if power and speed output is enhanced then any engine facelift will be much appreciated by us Porsche customers. With regards to the BMW 335i MS coupe engine facelift, it delivered no extra power or speed but instead felt less capable and no longer sounded like a performance engine. But then again I am quite an average driver (not Lewis Hamilton alas) so would probably be unable to test the difference in full.