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johnd wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:13 am Difficult to see how they'll meet their overall CO2 target without diesels, unless there's a huge effort to bring forward hybrids and Mission E asap - in other words maybe to launch them before they're properly ready.
They are well on the way to doing just that.
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At only 15% of total sales, compared to 67% of Audi total sales, Porsche dropping diesel shouldn't prove unduly problematic to their CO2 levels I wouldn't think?

I'm intrigued to see what will happen to residuals, as the market overall is still a long way off making finding a diesel pump, like some kind of treasure hunt?
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Maybe Porsche don't care about CO2...and why should they, given it's a non toxic, harmless trace gas that helps vegetation and greenery survive. On the other hand maybe they and everyone should worry because apparently,it will be the end of our planet otherwiseπŸ˜‚ (or perhaps the end of big profit for those invested in renewable energyπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚). I think the truth is coming out on the credibility of the man made climate change theory; car manufacturers, badly burnt by the regulations aligned to it, are planning for the day the whole CO2 reduction obsession is kicked into touch. Good bye and good riddance I say and long live the performance car that growls majestically as it fills its internals with glorious fossil fuelπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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Maybe Porsche don't care about CO2...and why should they, given it's a non toxic, harmless trace gas that helps vegetation and greenery survive. On the other hand maybe they and everyone should worry because apparently,it will be the end of our planet otherwiseπŸ˜‚ (or perhaps the end of big profit for those invested in renewable energyπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚). I think the truth is coming out on the credibility of the man made climate change theory; car manufacturers, badly burnt by the regulations aligned to it, are planning for the day the whole CO2 reduction obsession is kicked into touch. Good bye and good riddance I say and long live the performance car that growls majestically as it fills its internals with glorious fossil fuelπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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JBA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:49 pm Maybe Porsche don't care about CO2...and why should they, given it's a non toxic, harmless trace gas that helps vegetation and greenery survive. On the other hand maybe they and everyone should worry because apparently,it will be the end of our planet otherwiseπŸ˜‚ (or perhaps the end of big profit for those invested in renewable energyπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚). I think the truth is coming out on the credibility of the man made climate change theory; car manufacturers, badly burnt by the regulations aligned to it, are planning for the day the whole CO2 reduction obsession is kicked into touch. Good bye and good riddance I say and long live the performance car that growls majestically as it fills its internals with glorious fossil fuelπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Seriously?
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Saffa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:38 am
JBA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:49 pm Maybe Porsche don't care about CO2...and why should they, given it's a non toxic, harmless trace gas that helps vegetation and greenery survive. On the other hand maybe they and everyone should worry because apparently,it will be the end of our planet otherwiseπŸ˜‚ (or perhaps the end of big profit for those invested in renewable energyπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚). I think the truth is coming out on the credibility of the man made climate change theory; car manufacturers, badly burnt by the regulations aligned to it, are planning for the day the whole CO2 reduction obsession is kicked into touch. Good bye and good riddance I say and long live the performance car that growls majestically as it fills its internals with glorious fossil fuelπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Seriously?
...with the number of β€œ lols” πŸ˜‚ presumably not Saffa.....πŸ˜‰
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Reluctantly came to the same conclusion.
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:oops: Sorry wrong topic post!
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The Law of Unintended Consequences is strong here. Diesel caught on because regulators were worried about CO2 emissions, and then the focus turned to cheating on the testing (although in Europe at least they weren't cheating as they were allowed to have a cheat mode!). Then the focus switched to NOx, and diesel became the devils fuel. Some German cities are trying to ban diesel!!

So hybrids were born with an mpg of over 100. But the reality of the Panamera e-hybrid is that unless you charge it and use it as an electric, the consumption is still around 20mpg. And it takes more CO2 to make the car.
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I know that the Diesel Macan will soon be a rare breed and a collectors item but just looked on Autotrader and think i'll keep mine, the below is listed at Β£339,500 (o:


Porsche Macan 3.0 TD V6 S PDK AWD 5dr

Agate Grey, Massive Spec, FPSH
2014 (64 reg) |
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Porsche Macan S Diesel in Agate Grey 2014 /64 50,540 miles Massive Spec (see …


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