End of the Macan diesel

[Mike and his Macan]

To early to say ... they may firm up, market will dictate level...

[Paul]

OPC Solihull have just knocked £4K off a 3k mile SD, they had up for £63k. A sign of the weakening of SD residuals, following the dropping of the model? Hold onto your hats!

...or,that at £63K it was hugely over-priced and should have been 59995 all along (which is still the best part of £12K over basic list price ignoring options)

[mark-yorkshire]

OPC Solihull have just knocked £4K off a 3k mile SD, they had up for £63k. A sign of the weakening of SD residuals, following the dropping of the model? Hold onto your hats!

...or,that at £63K it was hugely over-priced and should have been 59995 all along (which is still the best part of £12K over basic list price ignoring options)

+1. Way too optimistic to list at £63k for a 3k miles SD.

[eakae]

I’m keen on some contrarian buying. Today I heard of an interesting alternative fuel. It’s made from plastic waste and can be used in diesel engines. It is reportedly 66% greener than current diesel but the downside is that it’ll probably be at least 25% more expensive.... To be honest, it’s probably too good to be true but if you can pick up a nice discount on a diesel car could be worth a punt. I quite fancy the Cayenne S 4.2 V6...

[rossman999]

I’m keen on some contrarian buying. Today I heard of an interesting alternative fuel. It’s made from plastic waste and can be used in diesel engines. It is reportedly 66% greener than current diesel but the downside is that it’ll probably be at least 25% more expensive.... To be honest, it’s probably too good to be true but if you can pick up a nice discount on a diesel car could be worth a punt. I quite fancy the Cayenne S 4.2 V6...

This is old news and has been about for some time, it was sold commercially in Poland & Ireland for some time with the benefit of subsidies - but remove the subsidies they struggled commercially. The problem is the ideal feedstocks for this is PE & PP, exactly the same feedstocks that are easily recycled and hence commercially valuable - so the process is commercially nonviable
Dont believe the marketing hipe that it takes any plastic, they will have a tolerance to PET & PVC but they produce benzoic acid & HCL respectively which will quickly destroy any plant

[eakae]

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This is old news and has been about for some time, it was sold commercially in Poland & Ireland for some time with the benefit of subsidies - but remove the subsidies they struggled commercially. The problem is the ideal feedstocks for this is PE & PP, exactly the same feedstocks that are easily recycled and hence commercially valuable - so the process is commercially nonviable
Dont believe the marketing hipe that it takes any plastic, they will have a tolerance to PET & PVC but they produce benzoic acid & HCL respectively which will quickly destroy any plant
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As I say, it sounded too good to be true. I guess what piqued my interest was the involvement of an energy and commodity company. However, as you say probably all marketing hype. Thank you for clarifying.

I still like the idea of picking up a diesel for a decent discount. The threat of a congestion charge within the north/south circular is a minor irritation but other than that...

[rossman999]

Dont get me wrong it works very well technically and with the correct feed stock, ie low value films, contaminated plastic etc etc it can be a valuable addition to the circular economy - just don't expect a diesel pump at your back door in place of your recycling bin anytime soon.

Recycling is all about commercial drivers, if there is a commercial value in a product someone will find out how to make some value, the problem is the lack of goverment direction to the councils and a waste policy that incentivises shipping waste of shore rather than recycling it in the UK.

[Mike and his Macan]

Yep...

[nsm3]

Looks like I may have been unduly panicking about SD residuals?

[Wing Commander]

Ha ha! And it's listed at that price on the Porsche Hatfield website too!

Their Sales Manager is clearly a born optimist!