Impressed by all-season tyres

[Deleted User 1874]

Pete, John and others - I would like to thank you for this informative debate.

You have helped me to decide to purchase a winter wheel/tyre set for the first time ever, for my new 911 T, which will be a year-round daily driver.

I'll no doubt be asking advice on here on my planned purchase, once I have the new car.

Cheers,

Simon

Personally I think it's a no-brainer on a 911 that's going to be used all year round. Just change wheels at the end of Nov/ early Dec and change back in spring. On pretty much every day of the year you will then have excellent tyre performance and your summer set will not get battered by salt over the winter. I only have summer tyres on my classic 911, but I don't drive it in the winter!

[Wing Commander]

Giz9, thank you very much for sharing that video. I also found the two AutoExpress ones afterwards really interesting too.

Very illuminating!

Cheers,

Simon

[Wing Commander]

Pete, John and others - I would like to thank you for this informative debate.

You have helped me to decide to purchase a winter wheel/tyre set for the first time ever, for my new 911 T, which will be a year-round daily driver.

I'll no doubt be asking advice on here on my planned purchase, once I have the new car. Cheers, Simon

Personally I think it's a no-brainer on a 911 that's going to be used all year round. Just change wheels at the end of Nov/ early Dec and change back in spring. On pretty much every day of the year you will then have excellent tyre performance and your summer set will not get battered by salt over the winter. I only have summer tyres on my classic 911, but I don't drive it in the winter!

Cheers, Peteski. Yes, having done some reading and watched some videos, I agree: no brainer.

I think it makes sense to go for 19" winter wheels/tyres to complement my 20" summer wheel/tyre set.

Just need to negotiate a good deal with an OPC and check to see if my PCGB membership will get me a discount (10%?).

[John_M]

Do you mean have I used winter tyres? Yes, I have them on my car right now. They are excellent at stopping in the snow as well as driving up hills. And prior to this winter I had all-seasons. Have you used a set of winter tyres?

There are loads of comparisons on Youtube but this one is illuminating - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfvyPtYR0Y

No All Seasons.

[Wing Commander]

Do you mean have I used winter tyres? Yes, I have them on my car right now. They are excellent at stopping in the snow as well as driving up hills. And prior to this winter I had all-seasons. Have you used a set of winter tyres?

There are loads of comparisons on Youtube but this one is illuminating - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfvyPtYR0Y

No All Seasons.

That video compares all season tyres and winter tyres.

[John_M]

That video compares all season tyres and winter tyres.

As Peteski points out all seasons are variable - so how many all seasons did they compare? My argument though is not that All Seasons are as good as Winter Tyres, but they will likely do all that is needed for most drivers especially when compared to modern summers. It is very easy to look at single maximum performance/figures and think that is best but in reality for most people a good average over a broader range is often better for their usage.

But I have to wonder how I coped on all that snow in a beaten up Maxi all those years ago.

[John_M]

some stuff

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you, as you say it's not really a thought provoking debate. So do whatever you like and so will I. Others can research and make their own minds up. If you are trying to convince me that all-season tyres would be a better choice year round for the UK, then you are wasting your own time too. If you arguing for the benefit of others then they are welcome to your wisdom!

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[SAC1]

That video compares all season tyres and winter tyres.

But I have to wonder how I coped on all that snow in a beaten up Maxi all those years ago.

Maxis were very low powered / low torque and FWD compared to modern day Porsche with RWD / AWD. The Maxi ran on narrow tread width e.g. 155/80R13 section tyres. Also 'summer' tyres back in the Maxi days were generally block patterns. Today's summer tyres are generally rib pattern construction and with much wider tread sections. So the Maxi could 'cut through' the snow., the car's power didn't overwhelm the low friction grip and the block pattern aided traction. Et voila a 2CV was even better on snow!

[Dandock]

That video compares all season tyres and winter tyres.

But I have to wonder how I coped on all that snow in a beaten up Maxi all those years ago.

Maxis were very low powered / low torque and FWD compared to modern day Porsche with RWD / AWD. The Maxi ran on narrow tread width e.g. 155/80R13 section tyres. Also 'summer' tyres back in the Maxi days were generally block patterns. Today's summer tyres are generally rib pattern construction and with much wider tread sections. So the Maxi could 'cut through' the snow., the car's power didn't overwhelm the low friction grip and the block pattern aided traction. Et voila a 2CV was even better on snow!

But neither were they assisted by enough computer power to run a small country.

[John_M]

Maxis were very low powered / low torque and FWD compared to modern day Porsche with RWD / AWD. The Maxi ran on narrow tread width e.g. 155/80R13 section tyres. Also 'summer' tyres back in the Maxi days were generally block patterns. Today's summer tyres are generally rib pattern construction and with much wider tread sections. So the Maxi could 'cut through' the snow., the car's power didn't overwhelm the low friction grip and the block pattern aided traction. Et voila a 2CV was even better on snow!

You know there is a pedal called a throttle and if you press it hard on snow, then even a Maxi could overwhelm the limited friction the tyres gave especially if they were worn and not best make going and unlike a Macan it only had to spin one wheel.