Sat Nav Frustrations...

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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by JBA » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:27 pm

Macan sat nav doesn't alert you to roads with width-restriction barriers.
Width restriction barriers are badly designed from a driver point: many have protruding concrete kerbs either side that make it highly likely you'll scuff the alloys in a wide car like a Macan. Earlier width barriers were easier to drive through because you had posts either side which formed an eye-level visual reference and no concrete protruding kerb. That meant you'd be safe from damaging alloys/wheels if you're mirrors didn't touch the posts. Ahh council road planners eh? You gotta love em! Next on their agenda is 20mph speed limits everywhere in London!! :lol:


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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by Dandock » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:10 pm

JBA wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:27 pm
Macan sat nav doesn't alert you to roads with width-restriction barriers.
Width restriction barriers are badly designed from a driver point: many have protruding concrete kerbs either side that make it highly likely you'll scuff the alloys in a wide car like a Macan. Earlier width barriers were easier to drive through because you had posts either side which formed an eye-level visual reference and no concrete protruding kerb. That meant you'd be safe from damaging alloys/wheels if you're mirrors didn't touch the posts. Ahh council road planners eh? You gotta love em! Next on their agenda is 20mph speed limits everywhere in London!! :lol:
It’s the responsibility of the responsible authorities to notify the satnav people of changes, whatever they may be.
There’s currently an issue in Cheltenham with the council (bless ‘em!) trialling (imposing!) a new traffic scheme (no through traffic in town centre) but as they’re defining it as temporary they have not notified whoever they’re supposed to notify. Consequently all satnavs are still routing drivers to a soon to be penalised no through road.
Neither have they put up adequate signage - but that’s a different soapbox. 😡
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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by Col Lamb » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:29 pm

Dandock wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:10 pm
JBA wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:27 pm
Macan sat nav doesn't alert you to roads with width-restriction barriers.
Width restriction barriers are badly designed from a driver point: many have protruding concrete kerbs either side that make it highly likely you'll scuff the alloys in a wide car like a Macan. Earlier width barriers were easier to drive through because you had posts either side which formed an eye-level visual reference and no concrete protruding kerb. That meant you'd be safe from damaging alloys/wheels if you're mirrors didn't touch the posts. Ahh council road planners eh? You gotta love em! Next on their agenda is 20mph speed limits everywhere in London!! :lol:
It’s the responsibility of the responsible authorities to notify the satnav people of changes, whatever they may be.
There’s currently an issue in Cheltenham with the council (bless ‘em!) trialling (imposing!) a new traffic scheme (no through traffic in town centre) but as they’re defining it as temporary they have not notified whoever they’re supposed to notify. Consequently all satnavs are still routing drivers to a soon to be penalised no through road.
Neither have they put up adequate signage - but that’s a different soapbox. 😡
Preston made the main shopping road a shared space, then they decided to divert non bus and taxi traffic down a side road to then loop them 1/2 a mile before re-joining the main shopping road.

They put up cameras and booked thousands of drivers who ignored the prohibited traffic signage.

They then had to pay back the fines as the signage was not the correct size and now it has been replaced.

The SatNav or Mark one eyeballs of two drivers this morning did not help these folks avoid going through onto the prohibited section of road.
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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by Dandock » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:09 pm

Col Lamb wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:29 pm
Dandock wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:10 pm
JBA wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:27 pm
Macan sat nav doesn't alert you to roads with width-restriction barriers.
Width restriction barriers are badly designed from a driver point: many have protruding concrete kerbs either side that make it highly likely you'll scuff the alloys in a wide car like a Macan. Earlier width barriers were easier to drive through because you had posts either side which formed an eye-level visual reference and no concrete protruding kerb. That meant you'd be safe from damaging alloys/wheels if you're mirrors didn't touch the posts. Ahh council road planners eh? You gotta love em! Next on their agenda is 20mph speed limits everywhere in London!! :lol:
It’s the responsibility of the responsible authorities to notify the satnav people of changes, whatever they may be.
There’s currently an issue in Cheltenham with the council (bless ‘em!) trialling (imposing!) a new traffic scheme (no through traffic in town centre) but as they’re defining it as temporary they have not notified whoever they’re supposed to notify. Consequently all satnavs are still routing drivers to a soon to be penalised no through road.
Neither have they put up adequate signage - but that’s a different soapbox. 😡
Preston made the main shopping road a shared space, then they decided to divert non bus and taxi traffic down a side road to then loop them 1/2 a mile before re-joining the main shopping road.

They put up cameras and booked thousands of drivers who ignored the prohibited traffic signage.

They then had to pay back the fines as the signage was not the correct size and now it has been replaced.

The SatNav or Mark one eyeballs of two drivers this morning did not help these folks avoid going through onto the prohibited section of road.
York tried something similar giving busses priority etc but had to massively refund cos of poor signage.
Ironically over the course of the trial the busses actually ran slower! 😂😂
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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by microbe » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:48 pm

I had very similar problems on my trip to Poole last week. The Sat nav took me down narrow, crowded and slow roads after the M27 so that it took me 4.5 hours to do 110 miles, with the last 10 miles taking an hour. It took me a different route coming home using major roads, dual carriageway. Trouble was they were packed with traffic so it took 3.5 hours for the return trip. Fortunately most of the traffic ended up queuing to get off the M27 onto the M3 so the second half of my trip was much quicker
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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by goron59 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:31 am

JBA wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:27 pm
Macan sat nav doesn't alert you to roads with width-restriction barriers.
Width restriction barriers are badly designed from a driver point: many have protruding concrete kerbs either side that make it highly likely you'll scuff the alloys in a wide car like a Macan. Earlier width barriers were easier to drive through because you had posts either side which formed an eye-level visual reference and no concrete protruding kerb. That meant you'd be safe from damaging alloys/wheels if you're mirrors didn't touch the posts. Ahh council road planners eh? You gotta love em! Next on their agenda is 20mph speed limits everywhere in London!! :lol:
Generally I agree with this, except at my local train station, the platform has a vantage point of one of these width restricted barriers and the vast majority of vehicles, wider than the Macan, go through just fine. Indeed most people don’t even slow to go through.

The ones that scrape are generally driven by people with no spatial awareness whatsoever, scraping a wheel one side with 20-30cm on the other side.

Same goes for narrow lanes. They’re not that narrow.

Drivers of larger vehicles should be offered training on how to tell where the corners of the car are or be forced to pay for surround cams.
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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by Paul » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:23 am

The best vehicles for narrow lanes or width restrictions would seem to be white vans; they don’t even lift off when approaching😉😂
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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by Macadam » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:20 pm

Get a full body wrap to avoid hedge scrapes.

NB This is not so effective when lanes are lined with stone walls!

It does seem that locals deal with narrow lanes by driving as fast as possible in order to get to the end before they meet oncoming traffic ;-)


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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by JBA » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:44 pm

goron59 wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:31 am
JBA wrote:
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:27 pm
Macan sat nav doesn't alert you to roads with width-restriction barriers.
Width restriction barriers are badly designed from a driver point: many have protruding concrete kerbs either side that make it highly likely you'll scuff the alloys in a wide car like a Macan. Earlier width barriers were easier to drive through because you had posts either side which formed an eye-level visual reference and no concrete protruding kerb. That meant you'd be safe from damaging alloys/wheels if you're mirrors didn't touch the posts. Ahh council road planners eh? You gotta love em! Next on their agenda is 20mph speed limits everywhere in London!! :lol:
Generally I agree with this, except at my local train station, the platform has a vantage point of one of these width restricted barriers and the vast majority of vehicles, wider than the Macan, go through just fine. Indeed most people don’t even slow to go through.

The ones that scrape are generally driven by people with no spatial awareness whatsoever, scraping a wheel one side with 20-30cm on the other side.

Same goes for narrow lanes. They’re not that narrow.

Drivers of larger vehicles should be offered training on how to tell where the corners of the car are or be forced to pay for surround cams.
Agree with you Goron but unfortunately not all barriers are the same width. Around my area some of them are just 6' 6" (1.98m) which keeps things irritatingly interesting when you're the proud owner of a car approaching 2m width with blemish-free black spider wheels;) . Even with my surround cam, I don't risk it, because the resolution is not as high as needed (and at night time it is almost impossible to confidently distinguish between wheels and kerb/barrier).


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Re: Sat Nav Frustrations...

Post by goron59 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:30 pm

The one I speak of is that width. Claimed. But it’s probably a little bit wider.
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