Macan hybrid... possibly

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jabcap
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Post by jabcap »

Having just been into Porsche Bordeaux thought I would share what they had to say about future models. I realise it may be different here to the UK (the prices certainly are!) but I guess it'll be the same models just about anywhere.

Rumour is the totally new Macan should be around in 2020 and available for delivery early 2021, which I think fits in with what others have said. He did say there would be a hybrid version and also a fully electric.. I was asking about a hybrid Cayenne which is available soon to order with deliveries early 2019.

The Macan hybrid should have the 3L petrol and hybrid from the Cayenne. He didn't say whether it would be reduced in power for the Macan.

He also confirmed that there will be a new diesel Macan.. the engine based on the same Audi sourced block but with upgraded to +/- 288 bhp.

They have 42 firm orders for the Cayenne hybrid which seems uncannily popular.. it's quite expensive here but it does avoid the dreaded pollution tax which is €10,500 for a petrol Macan upwards! They had new ex demo Cayenne turbo.. priced at €155,800 plus an additional €20,000 in various pollution and price taxes!..

Of course, with any rumour... take as you find but just what I was told today..
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Post by Col Lamb »

That does not really compute.

Facelifted Macans on the road in early 2019 only to be followed just over a year later with a completely new model.

It took Porsche 4 years to get to the facelifted version of the mark 1
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Not correct info. Here is a leaked VW-doc showing all their coming EVs and launch dates. The eMacan will be launched in November 2021 and first customer deliveries will take place in EU around spring 2022. This also makes perfect sense since this is EXACTLY 7 years after the first Macan was unveiled in November 2014. This is according to Porsche standard. 4 year until Facelift (like we see now in 2018 autumn for Macan). The Facelift run for 3 years until next gen...

2018
10/2018: VW Nutzf. eCrafter
10/2018: VW Nutzf. MOIA Transporter
11/2018: Audi e-tron

2019
08/2019: Porsche Taycan Turbo
10/2019: Skoda Citigo
11/2019: Seat Mii
11/2019: Porsche Taycan
11/2019: Audi e-tron Sportback

2020
01/2020: VW Neo
04/2020: Audi e-tron S
04/2020: Audi e-tron Sportback S
08/2020: VW Crozz
11/2020: Seat MEB Kurzheck
11/2020: Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo
11/2020: VW Nutzf. Kastenwagen langer Überhang
11/2020: VW Nutzf. Kombi langer/kurzer Überhang
11/2020: VW Nutzf. Multivan langer/kurzer Überhang
12/2020: Skoda MEB SUV (2 Varianten)

2021
01/2021: Audi e-tron GT (J1 Plattform)
02/2021: VW MEB SUV
04/2021: Audi MEB SUV
11/2021: Audi Elaine/E5 (PPE Plattform)
11/2021: Porsche eMacan (PPE Plattform)

2022
01/2022: VW Buzz
04/2022: Audi eQ5 (PPE Plattform)
??/2022: Audi E5 Avant (PPE Plattform)
04/2022: Bentley Sedan
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eMacan??? Hybrid or full EV?
GTS \o/ - sold :(
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Tall Phil wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:07 pm eMacan??? Hybrid or full EV?
Full EV.

Here is some more info about the PPE-platform/project
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/111 ... ng-in-2021
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@muxty when you spell out the list like that it makes you realise how un-special most[1] Porsches are. Or how special VW or Seat badged cars are.

[1] yes most, not all.
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muxty wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:32 pm
Tall Phil wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:07 pm eMacan??? Hybrid or full EV?
Full EV.

Here is some more info about the PPE-platform/project
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/111 ... ng-in-2021
Thanks, good to know.
GTS \o/ - sold :(
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muxty wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:32 pm
Tall Phil wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:07 pm eMacan??? Hybrid or full EV?
Full EV.

Here is some more info about the PPE-platform/project
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/111 ... ng-in-2021
Thanks for posting that interesting link.

It shows to me how inept the whole of the VW Groups Directors really are.

Take the eTron and Mission e, both have been designed from scratch on different platforms.

From an Engineering viewpoint two developments of essentially the same requirements is throwing vast sums of cash away. The only reason that they would do this is if they are using the two platforms as test beds, they have then learned from them and designed the PPE.

Now that means to me that both the eTron and Mission e as mark 1 versions then they are fundamentally flawed, for if they are not flawed then the PPE would not be necessary.

They seem have been using itterative processes to design and engineer their products, which is not good for the buyer.
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Col Lamb wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:10 pm They seem have been using itterative processes to design and engineer their products, which is not good for the buyer.
You know this is the company that designed and engineered the 911 right? Porsche don't seem to have much trouble selling them.
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goron59 wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:31 pm
Col Lamb wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:10 pm They seem have been using itterative processes to design and engineer their products, which is not good for the buyer.
You know this is the company that designed and engineered the 911 right? Porsche don't seem to have much trouble selling them.
Yep

They designed it in the fifties and have been tinkering with it ever since.

The 911 is a classic case of itterative engineering, incremental change, if it works fine, if not change it again, next cycle another small change, then repeat.

You can see the poor 911 versions by the talk that the 99x is not as good as the 9xx but that is better than the 9zz.

Porsche will continue to sell their cars because of the vast number of buyers who are only buying a badge, a status symbol, they have zero idea about the build or engineering, performance nor of its very good handling. 75% of all Porsche ever built are supposedly still around, pampered status symbols will do that.

All members here are of a different ilk that knows that in our Macan we have an excellent SUV, a quality build with performance to match the users requirements as close as an SUV in its class can.
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