Caught my eye...

[Mike and his Macan]

Thought this might shed some lights.....

[Dandock]

For performance car drivers it kinda sticks in the throat.

[Deleted User 1874]

Shows how we've all been fooled by unrealistic test procedures and the cheating even on those unrealistic tests is an indication of how far away manufacturers really are from true compliance with these tougher standards. This is a major reality check coming up.

[bennachie]

Still waiting for the first battery factory scandal with regard to heavy metal pollution and environmental damage during extraction........

[Dandock]

Beat the new rules... Porsche registrations up 61%!

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-carre ... =applenews

[rossman999]

To be confrontational

The problem is not the car companies but the standards and people wrongly assuming that test results are meant to relate to real world conditions.
I would argue the tests results are a useful measure between two different models.

[VanB]

I think most people would prefer a real world representation of what they can expect from their car. I think your argument is flawed in that some manufacturers results are a lot closer to real world than others so not really like for like.

[Dandock]

It’s a similar story with EVs and the EPA and NEDC estimates - the respective US and EU standards.

And do we really expect manufacturers NOT to talk up their products?

[Col Lamb]

Beat the new rules... Porsche registrations up 61%!

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-carre ... =applenews

Mike

Interesting article.

If correct it shows just what trouble the VW group as a whole is in producing engines that will be compliant to the new standards.

VWs actions can only benefit them in the short term, but what now?

[Deleted User 1874]

To be confrontational

The problem is not the car companies but the standards and people wrongly assuming that test results are meant to relate to real world conditions.
I would argue the tests results are a useful measure between two different models.

Strange logic when the tests are supposed to be a simulation of real world driving conditions? As said above these lab tests are highly misleading if two cars can score the same results in the lab and yet totally differently out on the road. Hence why these tests have now been revised to be actually more realistic.