Bring it on I say. I'm happy to give anything new a try.Dandock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:47 am With Porsche doing Formula E next season (?) i don't believe there can be any doubt as to where they're ultimately heading.
And with the WEC committing to a hydrogen class with Le Mans '24 being the first big target it will be very interesting to see what transpires in the years ahead. Maybe the world won't be totally EV at all.
"Having implemented diesel and then hybrid technology over recent years, the Automobile Club de l'Ouest says the hydrogen fuel cell is its next target and has set up a working group to formalise it.
The WEC revealed that seven major manufacturers and part makers are actively developing the technology to set the conditions for the new class.
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Toyota is also championing car hydrogen development.
USA article: "Toyota Won’t Make A Proper EV Because Dealers Say It Won’t Sell"
https://insideevs.com/toyota-no-ev-beca ... wont-sell/
USA article: "Toyota Won’t Make A Proper EV Because Dealers Say It Won’t Sell"
https://insideevs.com/toyota-no-ev-beca ... wont-sell/
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Yet they seem to think people will be wanting to buy this:-SAC1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:58 am Toyota is also championing car hydrogen development.
USA article: "Toyota Won’t Make A Proper EV Because Dealers Say It Won’t Sell"
https://insideevs.com/toyota-no-ev-beca ... wont-sell/
I just don't get Toyota and certainly not their vision of the future.
Unbelievably, I saw one in Mayfair the other day. HORRID LOOKING THING!! Anyone championing this thing needs their head examined. I hope it's just used as a test bed vehicle or mule of some sort!Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:32 amYet they seem to think people will be wanting to buy this:-SAC1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:58 am Toyota is also championing car hydrogen development.
USA article: "Toyota Won’t Make A Proper EV Because Dealers Say It Won’t Sell"
https://insideevs.com/toyota-no-ev-beca ... wont-sell/
I just don't get Toyota and certainly not their vision of the future.
+1 Not the fault of the engine, though.GMAN75 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:35 amUnbelievably, I saw one in Mayfair the other day. HORRID LOOKING THING!! Anyone championing this thing needs their head examined. I hope it's just used as a test bed vehicle or mule of some sort!Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:32 amYet they seem to think people will be wanting to buy this:-SAC1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:58 am Toyota is also championing car hydrogen development.
USA article: "Toyota Won’t Make A Proper EV Because Dealers Say It Won’t Sell"
https://insideevs.com/toyota-no-ev-beca ... wont-sell/
I just don't get Toyota and certainly not their vision of the future.
VG Petrol S http://www.porsche-code.com/PHIVCQU7 And a GT3 RS... by Lego! Not crash-tested!
I agree. That's the thing I just don't get with Toyota. All their "alternative" fuel vehicles are fugly as hell. Of course they won't sell them if that's how they choose to play it! I saw one of these mutants on the A43 the other week, probably heading to Swindon for some fuel.
No disrespect intended but I wonder if they envisaged them as aimed for the Far East market and in particular China. Eastern vehicle design has mostly been, shall we say, idiosyncratic.Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:52 amI agree. That's the thing I just don't get with Toyota. All their "alternative" fuel vehicles are fugly as hell. Of course they won't sell them if that's how they choose to play it! I saw one of these mutants on the A43 the other week, probably heading to Swindon for some fuel.
VG Petrol S http://www.porsche-code.com/PHIVCQU7 And a GT3 RS... by Lego! Not crash-tested!
Yes, well, here is a package for a Toyota V12...Dandock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:09 pmNo disrespect intended but I wonder if they envisaged them as aimed for the Far East market and in particular China. Eastern vehicle design has mostly been, shall we say, idiosyncratic.Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:52 amI agree. That's the thing I just don't get with Toyota. All their "alternative" fuel vehicles are fugly as hell. Of course they won't sell them if that's how they choose to play it! I saw one of these mutants on the A43 the other week, probably heading to Swindon for some fuel.
Quite possibly. But the Chinese EVs I've seen so far look quite reasonable. Or are they intended to sell to the west rather than their home market? Who knows, but Toyota is certainly not on my radar for my next car!Dandock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:09 pmNo disrespect intended but I wonder if they envisaged them as aimed for the Far East market and in particular China. Eastern vehicle design has mostly been, shall we say, idiosyncratic.Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:52 amI agree. That's the thing I just don't get with Toyota. All their "alternative" fuel vehicles are fugly as hell. Of course they won't sell them if that's how they choose to play it! I saw one of these mutants on the A43 the other week, probably heading to Swindon for some fuel.
J-Lo design principles are popular in some places [emoji2956]Peteski wrote: Yet they seem to think people will be wanting to buy this:-
I just don't get Toyota and certainly not their vision of the future.
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