I have Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) on my Macan, and it comes with Porsche Active Safe (PAS). PAS can be switched on or off in the vehicle settings.
Assuming PAS is on, my understanding is that if it thinks the car is heading for a collision with the vehicle in front, it will take progressive action - starting with visual and audible warnings, then pre-tensioning the brakes, and ultimately (if the driver takes no action), it will apply the brakes.
My insurance company has asked if my car has ‘Autonomous Emergency Braking’ (AEB).
Does PAS count as AEB?
Do I have AEB?
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I had this question from LV. I told them the car had it as part of ACC but I could switch it off by switching ACC off completely. Thier operator said they accepted as the car having AEB.
In practice I have the ACC switched on even if a speed is not set so in practice |I have AEB
The best thing is to tell the insurance company exactly what your car has.
In practice I have the ACC switched on even if a speed is not set so in practice |I have AEB
The best thing is to tell the insurance company exactly what your car has.
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Thanks - good to know they accepted it.pmg wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:22 pm I had this question from LV. I told them the car had it as part of ACC but I could switch it off by switching ACC off completely. Thier operator said they accepted as the car having AEB.
In practice I have the ACC switched on even if a speed is not set so in practice |I have AEB
The best thing is to tell the insurance company exactly what your car has.
I take your point about letting them know exactly what the car has, although with the online application, there was only scope for a simple yes/no.
Incidentally my understanding is that PAS will operate regardless of the status of ACC (that is assuming the separate PAS setting is switched on). But I could be wrong! The manual could be clearer.
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Good question
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I have opened a new topic on this question as it isn't clear to me either.
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This may be different on the facelift Macan but my understanding is the same as yours except for the last bit. I don't believe it "ultimately (if the driver takes no action), it will apply the brakes". It may increase the braking action once you have touched the brakes but I don't believe it will do it by itself. If ACC is active, it obviously will apply the brake automatically but again, I'm not sure that it would do emergency-level braking.Makanik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:59 am I have Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) on my Macan, and it comes with Porsche Active Safe (PAS). PAS can be switched on or off in the vehicle settings.
Assuming PAS is on, my understanding is that if it thinks the car is heading for a collision with the vehicle in front, it will take progressive action - starting with visual and audible warnings, then pre-tensioning the brakes, and ultimately (if the driver takes no action), it will apply the brakes.
My insurance company has asked if my car has ‘Autonomous Emergency Braking’ (AEB).
Does PAS count as AEB?
Perhaps someone needs to test it!
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You may be right, I find the manual unclear and ambiguous on PAS even after several reads. I think it would be very dangerous to try and test!!Giz9 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:48 amThis may be different on the facelift Macan but my understanding is the same as yours except for the last bit. I don't believe it "ultimately (if the driver takes no action), it will apply the brakes". It may increase the braking action once you have touched the brakes but I don't believe it will do it by itself. If ACC is active, it obviously will apply the brake automatically but again, I'm not sure that it would do emergency-level braking.Makanik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:59 am I have Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) on my Macan, and it comes with Porsche Active Safe (PAS). PAS can be switched on or off in the vehicle settings.
Assuming PAS is on, my understanding is that if it thinks the car is heading for a collision with the vehicle in front, it will take progressive action - starting with visual and audible warnings, then pre-tensioning the brakes, and ultimately (if the driver takes no action), it will apply the brakes.
My insurance company has asked if my car has ‘Autonomous Emergency Braking’ (AEB).
Does PAS count as AEB?
Perhaps someone needs to test it!
In one section it does however say:
“ Where required, the system can support the driver's braking or initiate partial or full deceleration in order to reduce the collision speed or prevent the collision in some circumstances.”
This sentence is full of the word “or”, but could be interpreted as including the following option:
Where required, the system can .....initiate ......full deceleration
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Sold: 2019 Macan S
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Sold: 2011 Cayman
I can confirm the PAS system certainly works when Acc on but a speed not set. (i.e non-lit ACC symbol showing in MFD) I have had instances when cars cut in front of me from left or right when warning bong appeared. As I never drive with acc completely off I cannot comment on that situation.Makanik wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:07 pmYou may be right, I find the manual unclear and ambiguous on PAS even after several reads. I think it would be very dangerous to try and test!!Giz9 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:48 amThis may be different on the facelift Macan but my understanding is the same as yours except for the last bit. I don't believe it "ultimately (if the driver takes no action), it will apply the brakes". It may increase the braking action once you have touched the brakes but I don't believe it will do it by itself. If ACC is active, it obviously will apply the brake automatically but again, I'm not sure that it would do emergency-level braking.Makanik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:59 am I have Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) on my Macan, and it comes with Porsche Active Safe (PAS). PAS can be switched on or off in the vehicle settings.
Assuming PAS is on, my understanding is that if it thinks the car is heading for a collision with the vehicle in front, it will take progressive action - starting with visual and audible warnings, then pre-tensioning the brakes, and ultimately (if the driver takes no action), it will apply the brakes.
My insurance company has asked if my car has ‘Autonomous Emergency Braking’ (AEB).
Does PAS count as AEB?
Perhaps someone needs to test it!
In one section it does however say:
“ Where required, the system can support the driver's braking or initiate partial or full deceleration in order to reduce the collision speed or prevent the collision in some circumstances.”
This sentence is full of the word “or”, but could be interpreted as including the following option:
Where required, the system can .....initiate ......full deceleration
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