Velar test drive
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I am very tempted by the Jaguar I-Pace. Maybe it's the geek in me or the lure of new tech, but on a positive note it will be built in Austria by Magna Steyr who are are renowned for their quality control The Aston Martin Rapides they built from 2008 to 2011 were the best.
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+1Peteski wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 7:46 amYes, I think you'd have to be a very brave/stupid man to take a risk on a brand new JLR product loaded to the brim with new tech!Beausoleil100 wrote: βMon Jul 31, 2017 5:16 pm As someone who bought a RR Sport when it first came out in June 2005 . . . and got rid by December over persistent electrical issues, I was particularly alarmed by the Velar's electrically deploying door handles that have the emergency keyhole hidden behind!! I have to assume that the door handles pop out if there is no battery supply or else how does this make any sense?
Presumably, in the event the car's battery goes flat, the handles pop out but the doors remain locked but, even so, every day I would dread the driver's door handle failing - especially if it has the only emergency lock - or finding the remote simply has a flat battery.
I'm no longer interested enough to go in and ask the question, but I am curious.
The Tech in most cars will cause problems. In JLR it's a huge mess. And they still can't fix it...
Thanks but no thanks. And I love my tech but it has to work.
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Let's see how the Velar fares.Kasfranks99 wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 8:04 am+1Peteski wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 7:46 amYes, I think you'd have to be a very brave/stupid man to take a risk on a brand new JLR product loaded to the brim with new tech!Beausoleil100 wrote: βMon Jul 31, 2017 5:16 pm As someone who bought a RR Sport when it first came out in June 2005 . . . and got rid by December over persistent electrical issues, I was particularly alarmed by the Velar's electrically deploying door handles that have the emergency keyhole hidden behind!! I have to assume that the door handles pop out if there is no battery supply or else how does this make any sense?
Presumably, in the event the car's battery goes flat, the handles pop out but the doors remain locked but, even so, every day I would dread the driver's door handle failing - especially if it has the only emergency lock - or finding the remote simply has a flat battery.
I'm no longer interested enough to go in and ask the question, but I am curious.
The Tech in most cars will cause problems. In JLR it's a huge mess. And they still can't fix it...
Thanks but no thanks. And I love my tech but it has to work.
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So far on the velar forums nothing systemic has really cropped up. Some have been experiencing blank screens and very slow responses, but at this stage doesn't seem pervasive. Of course, with so much functionality within those systems, these issues become more significant than if they were just housing sat nav and media.Mistertoad wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 8:10 amLet's see how the Velar fares.Kasfranks99 wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 8:04 am
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The Tech in most cars will cause problems. In JLR it's a huge mess. And they still can't fix it...
Thanks but no thanks. And I love my tech but it has to work.
Early days tho.
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Yes agree. the problem is a Velar is basically an Fpace dressed up a bit. A lot of the Tech etc is exactly the same as well as other items...Yanwoo wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 10:52 amSo far on the velar forums nothing systemic has really cropped up. Some have been experiencing blank screens and very slow responses, but at this stage doesn't seem pervasive. Of course, with so much functionality within those systems, these issues become more significant than if they were just housing sat nav and media.Mistertoad wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 8:10 amLet's see how the Velar fares.Kasfranks99 wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 8:04 am
+1
The Tech in most cars will cause problems. In JLR it's a huge mess. And they still can't fix it...
Thanks but no thanks. And I love my tech but it has to work.
Early days tho.
We will see and i am sure it will sell loads and these cars need to be a success to keep Porsche and all other manufacturers on their toes.
Its the whole experience with JLR/RR that i am not impressed with. not the actual look and feel of the cars.
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Well, only in a similiar way that the macan is just an audi Q5 dressed up! I've test driven both velar and f-pace recently, and they've got very different driving signatures, and the in-car experience is completely different. There are some visual similiarities externally, but many more differences I'd say.Kasfranks99 wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 11:00 am
Yes agree. the problem is a Velar is basically an Fpace dressed up a bit. A lot of the Tech etc is exactly the same as well as other items...
We will see and i am sure it will sell loads and these cars need to be a success to keep Porsche and all other manufacturers on their toes.
Its the whole experience with JLR/RR that i am not impressed with. not the actual look and feel of the cars.
Although I believe the tech is based on the same underlying system, the velar has quite a lot of extra complexity, including the incorporation of the panasonic system for integrating physical widgets and touch screen.
I will be very surprised if the Velar forums are not buzzing with issues in 6 months time. I certainly wouldn't take the chance with their track record of new releases and poor dealer service. It does look like a nice car but doesn't really fit my style. A bit too blingy for my taste like most other RR products, perhaps even more so.
Agreed!Peteski wrote: βWed Aug 02, 2017 12:10 pm I will be very surprised if the Velar forums are not buzzing with issues in 6 months time. I certainly wouldn't take the chance with their track record of new releases and poor dealer service. It does look like a nice car but doesn't really fit my style. A bit too blingy for my taste like most other RR products, perhaps even more so.
Generally true (re: new tech), I think, but perhaps even more so for JLR whose track record is more patchy than most. They seem to be patching pretty quick with the velar, which is a good sign they're development is maturing, but like you say, we'll see in 6 months or so how they're doing.
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Still looks like a beluga whale
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