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In 10 years, this could be mainstream with Solid State Batteries:
http://www.thedrive.com/tech/16037/fisk ... arge-times

Not sure that Fisker will be the one delivering, but the tech is for sure very interesting. There are so many innovations and improvements around the corner for Electric Vehicles. Cool stuff!

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Thats what we are waiting for. :D
There is already a company than can charge EV batteries in 5 minutes total 300 miles. Just not available to me and you yet. No increased costs either...

Its a specialist company that focus on this and we will see them in the very near future.
Look at the speed of charging on latest Iphones etc which can now be charged using QC 3.0 at a much faster speed. Even the wireless charging is is still at 7.5 - 10w....

Generally as phone battery charging development happens we will start seeing it in the cars (Even though there are some very clear differences between the two).
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Potentially game changing.

Interested in future to read about the actual charging arrangements, rapid charging goes hand in hand with high current flow so again we could have a bottleneck.

Lithium based cells have taken 30 years to get to the status of their current development so it will be some feat to develop the Fiskers battery by the early twenties.

The Fiskers patent is for a Lithium Ion cell which is similar to the one filed by a Company that Dyson bought so there may well be interesting developments.
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I think you'll find that Fiskers have been here before with patents that previously have gone nowhere. They admit that there's a mass of work to prove the theory.

Let's wait to see what the fat lady does.
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having been in electronics and reading about new game changing battery technologies - I am not holding my breath waiting as they come along quite regularly and rarely seem to get into production :(
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I'll be happy with a Mission E with a 310 mile range and 80% charge in 15 minutes! ;)
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Col Lamb wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:52 pm Potentially game changing.

Interested in future to read about the actual charging arrangements, rapid charging goes hand in hand with high current flow so again we could have a bottleneck.

Lithium based cells have taken 30 years to get to the status of their current development so it will be some feat to develop the Fiskers battery by the early twenties.

The Fiskers patent is for a Lithium Ion cell which is similar to the one filed by a Company that Dyson bought so there may well be interesting developments.
If I remember correctly Dyson cut them loose (and just wrote off the investment) just a few months ago after the lady-founder had been telling porkies about the tech.
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So to do this you’d need a charger of around 10 mega watts. Current supercharger is 120kW max, so 84supercharges.
I have a foundry that runs at 500v and 1MW and the transformer is around 1/3 do the size of a bus, to step down from transmission voltage to 500v. So each charging station would need a transformer the size of 2 double decker busses, and a grid/generation network to cope with switching these on/off without warning.
The cable to connect the cable to the car would be so heavy that you’d need a team of people to carry it and plug it in, and if any bend was needed in the cable to connect the car, the cable would move the vehicle straightening itself.
You’d need supercooled conductors as in an mri scanner to do this with any cable you could carry/connect,
Never ever ever ever ever (and a lot more evers) going to happen
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wilko wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:15 pm So to do this you’d need a charger of around 10 mega watts. Current supercharger is 120kW max, so 84supercharges.
I have a foundry that runs at 500v and 1MW and the transformer is around 1/3 do the size of a bus, to step down from transmission voltage to 500v. So each charging station would need a transformer the size of 2 double decker busses, and a grid/generation network to cope with switching these on/off without warning.
Never ever ever ever ever (and a lot more evers) going to happen
So what you are implying is that when charging one of these super battery packs in the garage that the garage will glow in the dark by the heat generated?
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