Hybrid & Tesla

[Macananon]

Are there any sites that show the location and date of future charging stations?

[Col Lamb]

Are there any sites that show the location and date of future charging stations?

The app Zapmap shows charging locations throughout the country.

Other simiar apps are available.

[johnd]

The app Zapmap shows charging locations throughout the country.

I always find that quite a confusing map because it doesn't make clear who can use a given charge point. eg a lot of chargers might be at hotels and the like. Does that mean I could use it even if I'm not staying there?

And a lot of the charging points are (unsurprisingly, I know) labelled Tesla. If it's a supercharger then it's clearly limited to Tesla. But if it's eg a 7kW point then can I use it or not? Is it really only for Tesla owners (maybe because only they have a suitable connector or have the right account? Or can anyone use it.

What's needed is a map of genuinely public charge points.

[johnd]

The app Zapmap shows charging locations throughout the country.

I always find that quite a confusing map because it doesn't make clear who can use a given charge point. eg a lot of chargers might be at hotels and the like. Does that mean I could use it even if I'm not staying there? Or not?

And a lot of the charging points are (unsurprisingly, I know) labelled Tesla. If it's a supercharger then it's clearly limited to Tesla. But if it's eg a 7kW point then can I use it or not? Is it really only for Tesla owners (maybe because only they have a suitable connector/cable or have the right account)? Or can anyone use it?

What's needed is a map of genuinely public charge points.

[Macananon]

Are there any sites that show the location and date of future charging stations?

The app Zapmap shows charging locations throughout the country.

Other simiar apps are available.

I'm want to know if a plan of future points is available.?

[Deleted User 1874]

The app Zapmap shows charging locations throughout the country.

I always find that quite a confusing map because it doesn't make clear who can use a given charge point. eg a lot of chargers might be at hotels and the like. Does that mean I could use it even if I'm not staying there?

And a lot of the charging points are (unsurprisingly, I know) labelled Tesla. If it's a supercharger then it's clearly limited to Tesla. But if it's eg a 7kW point then can I use it or not? Is it really only for Tesla owners (maybe because only they have a suitable connector or have the right account? Or can anyone use it.

What's needed is a map of genuinely public charge points.

Indeed it is confusing at first glance, especially if you don't even know what charge types there are available. But once you do a bit of swotting up on charger types and connectors it becomes a lot easier to work out what's what. On Zapmap you can simply filter by your car model to see what's available to use.

Running a Tesla is relatively easy, because you rarely need to use anything other than Tesla Superchargers and perhaps Tesla destination chargers and the onboard nav takes care of those for you en-route. There are other third party routing apps that include all other usable public charge points with live availability. "Rapids" are the other major source of public en-route charging, of which there are basically 2 types. With the right adaptors in the boot and the relevant Apps/credit card you can pretty much connect to any charger, so your choice comes down to charger speed, location and availability. I believe many motorway services now have rapid chargers these days, but obviously I use the free Tesla Superchargers in preference. Sometimes I've noticed public charging bays near the Tesla bays.

[smithy37]

The app Zapmap shows charging locations throughout the country.

I always find that quite a confusing map because it doesn't make clear who can use a given charge point. eg a lot of chargers might be at hotels and the like. Does that mean I could use it even if I'm not staying there?

And a lot of the charging points are (unsurprisingly, I know) labelled Tesla. If it's a supercharger then it's clearly limited to Tesla. But if it's eg a 7kW point then can I use it or not? Is it really only for Tesla owners (maybe because only they have a suitable connector or have the right account? Or can anyone use it.

What's needed is a map of genuinely public charge points.

Indeed it is confusing at first glance, especially if you don't even know what charge types there are available. But once you do a bit of swotting up on charger types and connectors it becomes a lot easier to work out what's what. On Zapmap you can simply filter by your car model to see what's available to use.

Running a Tesla is relatively easy, because you rarely need to use anything other than Tesla Superchargers and perhaps Tesla destination chargers and the onboard nav takes care of those for you en-route. There are other third party routing apps that include all other usable public charge points with live availability. "Rapids" are the other major source of public en-route charging, of which there are basically 2 types. With the right adaptors in the boot and the relevant Apps/credit card you can pretty much connect to any charger, so your choice comes down to charger speed, location and availability. I believe many motorway services now have rapid chargers these days, but obviously I use the free Tesla Superchargers in preference. Sometimes I've noticed public charging bays near the Tesla bays.

My biggest fear is you arrive at the scheduled charging point and someone is using it, or it is broken. Granted, if the fast charging bay is full you may only have to wait a short amount of time, but what happens if there is a queue.

I really love the model X (lucky man Peteski) and I am convinced the future of all cars lies in electric driven motors, but until I can be convinced I can just hop in and drive without range anxiety then I will bide my time....... Or until I have seen the Mission E

[Deleted User 1874]

My biggest fear is you arrive at the scheduled charging point and someone is using it, or it is broken. Granted, if the fast charging bay is full you may only have to wait a short amount of time, but what happens if there is a queue.

Most of the maps show live availability of public chargers, but yes I would share your concern if it wasn't for the Tesla charger network. Tesla Superchargers are very reliable and I've not experienced any queues or heard of any major complaints on the Tesla forums. The network is patchy in certain parts of the country (could do with more in the New Forest area for example), but whenever I've used a Supercharger I have been presented with multiple empty bays. For example I arrived at the Warwick M40 Southbound charger at rush hour on Friday evening and even then it was absolutely no issue. They have 8 Tesla bays and only 1 was occupied on arrival. I only had to charge for 15 mins (@ 100+ kW) to get home comfortably, so not a problem at all. The public charging network really needs to get on this level.

Only last week I was talking to our local OPC about the Mission E and he was telling me how they are going to provide rapid chargers at all OPC locations. While that's great to have, it's not going to be very practical when travelling on motorway networks. For example, Porsche Silverstone is a good few miles off the M1, as are most other OPCs from their respective motorways. Tesla still have a genuine USP with their dedicated Supercharger network (at roughly 50 mile increments along major motorways) and I think that will remain the case for at least the immediate future.

[Bigboyrolo]

If I was planning to do Euro trips I would have gone for the bigger battery. A Model X 75D is a worst case scenario for range. It makes a Panny look small inside, so not really a fair comparison. A Model S 100D would be a closer comparison in size and that has an extra 100 mile range over my X. I would be more than happy to take on a Euro trip with the 100 kWh battery in either Tesla, but I agree the 75 kWh is marginal for long haul trips.

You are of course quite right, the re-charge map for an S 100D indicated little or no inconvenience en route, see below, making euro drives a reality, in fact Teslas are everywhere in Europe, far more than hybrid Porsches. When I stop long distance euro drives, an EV will suit me fine, early reports about the iPace are good but £77k for the EV400 1st edition, close to a Mission E price perhaps, and lots of Porsche diesels for that money. Still too soon for me though.

[Bigboyrolo]

I do like plenty of space around my car when I park up for the night though . Its a good night stop if you are in the area - Logis Auberges des Moissons at Matouges, just off the A26, a fair price for excellent rooms but restaurant can be pricey - a truffle & champagne specialist.