Jaguar I Pace
Peteski, I think we all know that you are an evangelical EV convert and I guess we all will be some day. Glad you are enjoying your Tesla so much and I am really looking forward to seeing the slew of mainstream manufacturers' EV offerings that are on the horizon.
Current - 991.2 GTS C4 GT Silver
Previous: Macan GTS Night Blue
Previous: 981 Cayman S Agate
Previous: Macan GTS Night Blue
Previous: 981 Cayman S Agate
It’s all very well but is there a product out there that will tow 2 tonnes on a 400 mile round trip in a day?
Macan SD Vocano Grey. LEDs, Pano Roof, PSE, Sports Chrono, PASM, Sports Design Mirrors, 21" Sports Classics in Black, lots of other extras.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PJ2XHAR5 for the day that this works again.
987 Boxster 2.7 (2006)
http://www.porsche-code.com/PJ2XHAR5 for the day that this works again.
987 Boxster 2.7 (2006)
- Mistertoad
- Posts: 1405
- Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:52 am
- Location: West Sussex
I like the look of the I-Pace and it is the right size for me. Unfortunately it is over priced and does not have the range to cover all my needs. Build quality by Magna Steyr in Graz should be up there with Porsche and Jaguar has invested a lot of time and effort making sure it will be right from the start.
2015 Cayenne S - Sold
2016 718 Boxster - Sold
2016 Bentley Continental GT V8 S
2016 718 Boxster - Sold
2016 Bentley Continental GT V8 S
A Tesla Model X could do that providing there is a Supercharger or other rapid charger en-route or destination charging available when you are stopped, presuming you are going to actually stop and do something at the 200 mile point. Not suggesting it's an ideal long distance towing car though. But plenty of people do tow with it and actually comes as standard with a tow bar fitted.
The JLR specialists at the roadshow seemed to discourage I-Pace towing - just not enough battery capacity, though I think it does have a nominal 750kg towing maximum.
Weight would be the main issue there as those batteries are a major weight penalty. So charging infrastructure is the real key factor and Tesla are well ahead of the game in that respect. There are still some notable gaps (especially in more remote parts of the country), but the Tesla Supercharging network is light years better than the public charging infrastructure. Just roll up and plug in for free rapid 120 kW charging (no cards or other faffing around required and no queues in most cases). Early I-Pace owners may be disappointed if they expect to tour in their cars as public chargers are still slow, unreliable and prone to hogging. Accounts of people attempting longer journeys in their Leafs don't sound very positive! Of course non of this matters for daily usage providing you are well within the range and most people should be for their daily commutes etc. It goes without saying that home charging (or perhaps work charging as a minimum) is essential to make an EV really work for you.
I disagree with your prone to hogging statement. are people who park in a space without a charger hogging that space?
The issue is not the car in the space, its the charger itself. I used to park my car at a charge point at 6:45 am, jump on the tram to work (20 mins) and return at roughly 5:20 (depending on tram time) there wasn't time for me to go back at lunch. is that hogging? or should I not have been allowed to charge my car? are charge points only for those continuing journeys within the hour?
clear design flaw, yes, but not the fault of people that utilise the technology.
Current: 991.2 GTS, Gtd
Previous: Macan TPP, C350e, B8 RS4 Nogaro, Tiguan, S3, A1, B8 RS4, A5 cab, Golf GTTDI x2, RS Clio 197, TT Cab 1.8T, RS Clio 182, Megane 1.5 dci, Clio 1.5 dci, Astra Merit 1.6 d
Previous: Macan TPP, C350e, B8 RS4 Nogaro, Tiguan, S3, A1, B8 RS4, A5 cab, Golf GTTDI x2, RS Clio 197, TT Cab 1.8T, RS Clio 182, Megane 1.5 dci, Clio 1.5 dci, Astra Merit 1.6 d
Okay, by "hogging" I really meant "in use" or "occupied" or perhaps even "ICED". But the point I was making is that you can't currently rely on public chargers being available at the drop of a hat like you can with Tesla SCs. Plus they are far slower to charge. That may or may not be an issue for potential I-Pace owners depending on their intended usage,, but it would be a deal-breaker for me. The public charging infrastructure is simply not mature enough to provide hassle free, rapid charging at present, whereas the Tesla SC network is actually very good indeed (with the odd exception). For that reason alone I wouldn't seriously consider any other "long haul" EV at the moment.N13LXC wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:38 pmI disagree with your prone to hogging statement. are people who park in a space without a charger hogging that space?
The issue is not the car in the space, its the charger itself. I used to park my car at a charge point at 6:45 am, jump on the tram to work (20 mins) and return at roughly 5:20 (depending on tram time) there wasn't time for me to go back at lunch. is that hogging? or should I not have been allowed to charge my car? are charge points only for those continuing journeys within the hour?
clear design flaw, yes, but not the fault of people that utilise the technology.
great idea only problem is then would be even more weight !!
911 C2 Pickup 14th April 2018
http://www.porsche-code.com/PJN1HBF2
Pensioner Petrol S - http://www.porsche-code.com/PHMKHZF4 - Deposit place 11/11/14 - Pick up 09/05/16 - SOLD 30/08/17
http://www.porsche-code.com/PJN1HBF2
Pensioner Petrol S - http://www.porsche-code.com/PHMKHZF4 - Deposit place 11/11/14 - Pick up 09/05/16 - SOLD 30/08/17