Some E xciting developments coming 18/19
Is there any model of any marque that has been around a while that has not got larger, fatter and heavier with age?
Col
Macan Turbo
Air, 20” wheels, ACC, Pano, SurCam, 14w, LEDs, PS+, Int Light Pack, Heated seats and Steering, spare wheel, SC, Privacy glass, PDK gear, SD mirrors, Met Black, rear airbags
Macan Turbo
Air, 20” wheels, ACC, Pano, SurCam, 14w, LEDs, PS+, Int Light Pack, Heated seats and Steering, spare wheel, SC, Privacy glass, PDK gear, SD mirrors, Met Black, rear airbags
(Are you talking about me again Col?....)
1st Sapphire SD
2nd Sapphire GTS
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Current 992 S Cab
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2nd Sapphire GTS
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Current 992 S Cab
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So the Tesla X will cost you £48,440 for 4 years motoring, with nothing at the end of the PCP contract.Peteski wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:22 amMuch less than the Volvo XC90 T8 I was thinking of buying. £11k deposit + £780 a month over 4 years (1.5% APR), 40K miles and 7p/mile unlimited excess. The Volvo was over £1K per month on the same PCP term and deposit. Cash price would have been £88K, but the cheap finance makes it much more competitive vs Volvo, Jaguar, Porsche, etc. finance. Even has a higher guaranteed residual than the Cayenne at the end of the PCP.
Servicing costs are surprisingly expensive, but no worse than Porsche! Other running costs are seriously cheap though for a 500 hp 7-seat SUV.
I paid cash for my Macan, as there were no attractive PCP deals and no discount was available on a brand new one. Interest rates on cash savings being less than 1.4%, I saved circa 4.5% on the finance charge option, which were a heady 6.9% at the time. Effectively therefore I'm getting "free" fuel for about 17,500 miles...... and I own the car outright.
Steve
2020 GTS in Sapphire Blue
(sold) 2017 SD in Rhodium Silver
2020 GTS in Sapphire Blue
(sold) 2017 SD in Rhodium Silver
And your point is what? Other similar new SUVs would have cost even more on a 4 year PCP and I really didn't feel like shelling out £88k in cash upfront. Neither did I want a used car. Plus I wanted a full EV, so not exactly a lot of choice, well actually none at all!SAC1 wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 8:41 amSo the Tesla X will cost you £48,440 for 4 years motoring, with nothing at the end of the PCP contract.Peteski wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 11:22 amMuch less than the Volvo XC90 T8 I was thinking of buying. £11k deposit + £780 a month over 4 years (1.5% APR), 40K miles and 7p/mile unlimited excess. The Volvo was over £1K per month on the same PCP term and deposit. Cash price would have been £88K, but the cheap finance makes it much more competitive vs Volvo, Jaguar, Porsche, etc. finance. Even has a higher guaranteed residual than the Cayenne at the end of the PCP.
Servicing costs are surprisingly expensive, but no worse than Porsche! Other running costs are seriously cheap though for a 500 hp 7-seat SUV.
I paid cash for my Macan, as there were no attractive PCP deals and no discount was available on a brand new one. Interest rates on cash savings being less than 1.4%, I saved circa 4.5% on the finance charge option, which were a heady 6.9% at the time. Effectively therefore I'm getting "free" fuel for about 17,500 miles...... and I own the car outright.
I own my classic 911 outright and it's an appreciating asset. Totally different situation. Horses for courses.
Well said.
A reasonably equipted Macan Turbo £75k
A Tesla Model X with similar performance and one extra pack selected £93k.
So the Tesla costs £18k more with far inferior selection of extras and a basic bland interior.
£18k will cover the costs of fuel, servicing and road taxes for many, many years in my Turbo.
What a Tesla will be worth in 3-5 years is unknown for an outright purchase.
The economics of a Tesla only seem to sort of make sense with a PCP.
Col
Macan Turbo
Air, 20” wheels, ACC, Pano, SurCam, 14w, LEDs, PS+, Int Light Pack, Heated seats and Steering, spare wheel, SC, Privacy glass, PDK gear, SD mirrors, Met Black, rear airbags
Macan Turbo
Air, 20” wheels, ACC, Pano, SurCam, 14w, LEDs, PS+, Int Light Pack, Heated seats and Steering, spare wheel, SC, Privacy glass, PDK gear, SD mirrors, Met Black, rear airbags
Some of the discussion in here remind me much of the classic Dunning/Kruger effect.
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I do like that graph! (and the underlying theory)
Perhaps it could be made interactive and we could plot each other’s positions.....
Perhaps it could be made interactive and we could plot each other’s positions.....
1st Sapphire SD
2nd Sapphire GTS
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Current 992 S Cab
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2nd Sapphire GTS
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Current 992 S Cab
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