Tesla Model X Road Trip
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However, if the hotel had offered overnight charging, even using an extension lead and a home charger (I assume this can be done; the closest I have ever been to an electric car was scalextric) then they would have had better options, surely?
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Their task was to do the drive using only the Supercharger network.happy days wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:07 pm However, if the hotel had offered overnight charging, even using an extension lead and a home charger (I assume this can be done; the closest I have ever been to an electric car was scalextric) then they would have had better options, surely?
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Certainly more of a challenge than a typical UK road trip! On our major motorway routes Superchargers are spaced very roughly 50 miles apart. It gets more tricky when you head further off-piste but there are plenty of charging options other than Superchargers.Col Lamb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:04 pm Peterski
The limiting factor was Tesla’s own Supercharger network and the vast distances involved. They did between 450 and 650 miles per day.
They had to have a quick charge simply because the X could not make it to the next Supercharger, so it was often an equivalent of the splash and dash we do that is only fill up on Motorways with enough to get us to where we want to go.
So a 240 mile range is of little use if Superchargers are every 200 miles.
You start at zero miles with a full battery and have to stop to charge at 200 miles then you drive on another 200 miles and charge. Then drive another 150 miles to the Hotel where there is no Supercharger.
Next morning its at the nearest Supercharger and the cycle repeats, so the next 550 miles needs 3 charge stops maybe more, depending upon location of the next Supercharger.
The total miles was about 3300 and they had 21 charge stops and 2 sessions of range anxiety one of which was the equivalent of having to drive for a couple of hours at 45 mph on our Motorway to get to their nearest Supercharger.
Of course that was in the USA we are different in the distances between Superchargers but I certainly would not want to attempt the North Coast 500 in an EV. As it was they left Las Vegas and had to pass on going to see The Grand Canyon because they did not have the range.
They seemed to leave their Hotel and stop very soon to charge then onward to the next Supercharger system which did frequently seem to be located in questionable isolated locations.
I've covered 15k miles since Feb without any range anxiety. The convenience of daily home charging easily offsets the odd time I need to Supercharge on the road. Nothing so far has made me think about going back to an ICE car. I'm even thinking I should have made the switch to EV sooner.
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I see - haven't watched it yet. But that would make sense.Col Lamb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:30 pmTheir task was to do the drive using only the Supercharger network.happy days wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:07 pm However, if the hotel had offered overnight charging, even using an extension lead and a home charger (I assume this can be done; the closest I have ever been to an electric car was scalextric) then they would have had better options, surely?
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Out of London and onto the M4 I see, literally, 1 supercharger which is on the motorway and for which you do not have to divert. That, for me, is squeeky bum territory if I had an EV!Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:56 pmCertainly more of a challenge than a typical UK road trip! On our major motorway routes Superchargers are spaced very roughly 50 miles apart. It gets more tricky when you head further off-piste but there are plenty of charging options other than Superchargers.Col Lamb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:04 pm Peterski
The limiting factor was Tesla’s own Supercharger network and the vast distances involved. They did between 450 and 650 miles per day.
They had to have a quick charge simply because the X could not make it to the next Supercharger, so it was often an equivalent of the splash and dash we do that is only fill up on Motorways with enough to get us to where we want to go.
So a 240 mile range is of little use if Superchargers are every 200 miles.
You start at zero miles with a full battery and have to stop to charge at 200 miles then you drive on another 200 miles and charge. Then drive another 150 miles to the Hotel where there is no Supercharger.
Next morning its at the nearest Supercharger and the cycle repeats, so the next 550 miles needs 3 charge stops maybe more, depending upon location of the next Supercharger.
The total miles was about 3300 and they had 21 charge stops and 2 sessions of range anxiety one of which was the equivalent of having to drive for a couple of hours at 45 mph on our Motorway to get to their nearest Supercharger.
Of course that was in the USA we are different in the distances between Superchargers but I certainly would not want to attempt the North Coast 500 in an EV. As it was they left Las Vegas and had to pass on going to see The Grand Canyon because they did not have the range.
They seemed to leave their Hotel and stop very soon to charge then onward to the next Supercharger system which did frequently seem to be located in questionable isolated locations.
I've covered 15k miles since Feb without any range anxiety. The convenience of daily home charging easily offsets the odd time I need to Supercharge on the road. Nothing so far has made me think about going back to an ICE car. I'm even thinking I should have made the switch to EV sooner.
I don't see any problem heading out of London on the M4 in a Tesla. There are multiple Superchargers at Slough, Reading, Swindon & Bristol if you needed to stop at some point.GMAN75 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:10 pmOut of London and onto the M4 I see, literally, 1 supercharger which is on the motorway and for which you do not have to divert. That, for me, is squeeky bum territory if I had an EV!Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:56 pmCertainly more of a challenge than a typical UK road trip! On our major motorway routes Superchargers are spaced very roughly 50 miles apart. It gets more tricky when you head further off-piste but there are plenty of charging options other than Superchargers.Col Lamb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:04 pm Peterski
The limiting factor was Tesla’s own Supercharger network and the vast distances involved. They did between 450 and 650 miles per day.
They had to have a quick charge simply because the X could not make it to the next Supercharger, so it was often an equivalent of the splash and dash we do that is only fill up on Motorways with enough to get us to where we want to go.
So a 240 mile range is of little use if Superchargers are every 200 miles.
You start at zero miles with a full battery and have to stop to charge at 200 miles then you drive on another 200 miles and charge. Then drive another 150 miles to the Hotel where there is no Supercharger.
Next morning its at the nearest Supercharger and the cycle repeats, so the next 550 miles needs 3 charge stops maybe more, depending upon location of the next Supercharger.
The total miles was about 3300 and they had 21 charge stops and 2 sessions of range anxiety one of which was the equivalent of having to drive for a couple of hours at 45 mph on our Motorway to get to their nearest Supercharger.
Of course that was in the USA we are different in the distances between Superchargers but I certainly would not want to attempt the North Coast 500 in an EV. As it was they left Las Vegas and had to pass on going to see The Grand Canyon because they did not have the range.
They seemed to leave their Hotel and stop very soon to charge then onward to the next Supercharger system which did frequently seem to be located in questionable isolated locations.
I've covered 15k miles since Feb without any range anxiety. The convenience of daily home charging easily offsets the odd time I need to Supercharge on the road. Nothing so far has made me think about going back to an ICE car. I'm even thinking I should have made the switch to EV sooner.
Superchargers/Fastchargers are not necessary in big cities. They mainly serve a purpose en route. In big cities it is better to charge while parked and doing something else. On a business meeting, during night while sleeping or visiting a shopping center.GMAN75 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:10 pmOut of London and onto the M4 I see, literally, 1 supercharger which is on the motorway and for which you do not have to divert. That, for me, is squeeky bum territory if I had an EV!Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:56 pmCertainly more of a challenge than a typical UK road trip! On our major motorway routes Superchargers are spaced very roughly 50 miles apart. It gets more tricky when you head further off-piste but there are plenty of charging options other than Superchargers.Col Lamb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:04 pm Peterski
The limiting factor was Tesla’s own Supercharger network and the vast distances involved. They did between 450 and 650 miles per day.
They had to have a quick charge simply because the X could not make it to the next Supercharger, so it was often an equivalent of the splash and dash we do that is only fill up on Motorways with enough to get us to where we want to go.
So a 240 mile range is of little use if Superchargers are every 200 miles.
You start at zero miles with a full battery and have to stop to charge at 200 miles then you drive on another 200 miles and charge. Then drive another 150 miles to the Hotel where there is no Supercharger.
Next morning its at the nearest Supercharger and the cycle repeats, so the next 550 miles needs 3 charge stops maybe more, depending upon location of the next Supercharger.
The total miles was about 3300 and they had 21 charge stops and 2 sessions of range anxiety one of which was the equivalent of having to drive for a couple of hours at 45 mph on our Motorway to get to their nearest Supercharger.
Of course that was in the USA we are different in the distances between Superchargers but I certainly would not want to attempt the North Coast 500 in an EV. As it was they left Las Vegas and had to pass on going to see The Grand Canyon because they did not have the range.
They seemed to leave their Hotel and stop very soon to charge then onward to the next Supercharger system which did frequently seem to be located in questionable isolated locations.
I've covered 15k miles since Feb without any range anxiety. The convenience of daily home charging easily offsets the odd time I need to Supercharge on the road. Nothing so far has made me think about going back to an ICE car. I'm even thinking I should have made the switch to EV sooner.
I think in general those who have lived with an EV for a while and have access to overnight charging at home do realize that e.g. a fast charger in cities is something that is never used.
You'll all get it if you try it out for some months. I've driven Tesla for 2 years now and have never had range anxiety. I have actually found out that it is much more convenience than driving a petrol car. And this is not a hoax, it's the truth. And honestly... If it would not have been better with EV for me I would have switched to a petrol car in a heart beat. But I've found out that it is the other way around, by testing in real life.
Those of you who are sceptic... Have you never asked yourself the question why those who are negative and have range anxiety are those who never tested to live with an EV on a day to day basis? It's always like that on every internet forum. Those who lack experience shout the loudest.
Reminds me very much of this....
There is 1 supercharger on the M4. The rest require you to leave the motorway.Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:38 pmI don't see any problem heading out of London on the M4 in a Tesla. There are multiple Superchargers at Slough, Reading, Swindon & Bristol if you needed to stop at some point.GMAN75 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:10 pmOut of London and onto the M4 I see, literally, 1 supercharger which is on the motorway and for which you do not have to divert. That, for me, is squeeky bum territory if I had an EV!Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:56 pm
Certainly more of a challenge than a typical UK road trip! On our major motorway routes Superchargers are spaced very roughly 50 miles apart. It gets more tricky when you head further off-piste but there are plenty of charging options other than Superchargers.
I've covered 15k miles since Feb without any range anxiety. The convenience of daily home charging easily offsets the odd time I need to Supercharge on the road. Nothing so far has made me think about going back to an ICE car. I'm even thinking I should have made the switch to EV sooner.
"On a business meeting, during night while sleeping or visiting a shopping center."muxty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:17 pmSuperchargers/Fastchargers are not necessary in big cities. They mainly serve a purpose en route. In big cities it is better to charge while parked and doing something else. On a business meeting, during night while sleeping or visiting a shopping center.GMAN75 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:10 pmOut of London and onto the M4 I see, literally, 1 supercharger which is on the motorway and for which you do not have to divert. That, for me, is squeeky bum territory if I had an EV!Peteski wrote: ↑Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:56 pm
Certainly more of a challenge than a typical UK road trip! On our major motorway routes Superchargers are spaced very roughly 50 miles apart. It gets more tricky when you head further off-piste but there are plenty of charging options other than Superchargers.
I've covered 15k miles since Feb without any range anxiety. The convenience of daily home charging easily offsets the odd time I need to Supercharge on the road. Nothing so far has made me think about going back to an ICE car. I'm even thinking I should have made the switch to EV sooner.
I think in general those who have lived with an EV for a while and have access to overnight charging at home do realize that e.g. a fast charger in cities is something that is never used.
You'll all get it if you try it out for some months. I've driven Tesla for 2 years now and have never had range anxiety. I have actually found out that it is much more convenience than driving a petrol car. And this is not a hoax, it's the truth. And honestly... If it would not have been better with EV for me I would have switched to a petrol car in a heart beat. But I've found out that it is the other way around, by testing in real life.
Those of you who are sceptic... Have you never asked yourself the question why those who are negative and have range anxiety are those who never tested to live with an EV on a day to day basis? It's always like that on every internet forum. Those who lack experience shout the loudest.
Reminds me very much of this....
I cannot do either. I commute to the office using public transport. Who actually drives into London to the office and goes to a business meeting in their own EV??! Second, I live in a flat with no local charge points. Lastly, none of my local shopping centers have charging points. Should I change my habits, move, work elsewhere to get that EV feeling?? No. Infrastructure and convenience first please.
News this morning that VW and Tesco have struck a deal for free (7kW) charging whilst you shop at 2500 charging points in 600 stores. Anything faster to be chargeable. That's 4 per store - not earth-shattering, but a start !
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46386858
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46386858
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