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Mistertoad wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:56 pm When the E-Tron GT concept car goes into production at the end of 2020 Audi are quoting 15-20 minutes for an 80% charge using a 350kW charger and wireless induction charging will be available for home charging.

I must say the GT looks stunning. https://www.autoblog.com/photos/audi-e- ... de-7475754
The E Tron GT looks like a Taycan that has been given a good kicking.

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I suppose living a few miles from an OPC that will do this for free (or cheaply) makes it ok. At least it's not buried in an expensive underground multi-storey carpark like all my local Tesla supercharger places!
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Pivot wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:03 pm
Mistertoad wrote:When the E-Tron GT concept car goes into production at the end of 2020 Audi are quoting 15-20 minutes for an 80% charge using a 350kW charger and wireless induction charging will be available for home charging.

I must say the GT looks stunning. https://www.autoblog.com/photos/audi-e- ... de-7475754
Charging with 350kW? Nice if you live or work in an industrial park with wiring that can handle it [emoji12]
This is never something you would be doing at home or work. Only dedicated public charging sites are ever going to provide 350 kW charging. At home you are never going above 8 kW on single phase or 22 kW on a 3-phase supply. That's not a problem because it's on road trips that you would benefit from the super fast charging. At home you just park up overnight and for me typically 3-4 hours of overnight charging at 8 kW is enough to top back up for the next day.
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goron59 wrote: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:34 pm I suppose living a few miles from an OPC that will do this for free (or cheaply) makes it ok. At least it's not buried in an expensive underground multi-storey carpark like all my local Tesla supercharger places!
These kind of rapid chargers are not intended for "local" daily charging. Obviously if you live somewhere without home charging you are pretty stuffed and an EV would be hard work to live with. My nearest Supercharger is about 10 miles away on the M1 at Northampton, but I very rarely use it unless I happen to be passing by and fancy a free top up.
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@Peteski, just out of interest, has your home electricity bill gone up a lot since you changed to EV?
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happy days wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:38 am @Peteski, just out of interest, has your home electricity bill gone up a lot since you changed to EV?
Well I've done 15k miles in the Tesla and about 13K of that was with home charging, the rest free charging out on the road. Average consumption is about 400 Wh/mile, so that's a total consumption of around 5200 kWh. I pay about 11.5 p/kWh, so that's a total cost of around £600 for the last 15k miles motoring. It's a lot cheaper than running a large ICE SUV with 500 hp!
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My mate with a Model S (85) tried to do a comparison and calculated it works out at about £7 for a full charge (as opposed to c £80 to fill up a Macan). There isn't actually an awful lot of difference in the real world range between a Model S and a Macan GTS but even if the range of the GTS were 100 miles greater it is still miles cheaper to run an EV
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VanB wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:01 pm My mate with a Model S (85) tried to do a comparison and calculated it works out at about £7 for a full charge (as opposed to c £80 to fill up a Macan). There isn't actually an awful lot of difference in the real world range between a Model S and a Macan GTS but even if the range of the GTS were 100 miles greater it is still miles cheaper to run an EV
Yeah, there's no comparison on "fuel" costs, the savings are significant. You could argue that they are offset by the higher vehicle cost and possibly depreciation, although Tesla finance was ridiculously cheap until recently (now more in line with alternatives) and PCP residuals are high. Then there are all the business benefits of running an EV. My wife is an accountant and has recently helped a few of her business clients buy Teslas and the overall savings through a company purchase were very compelling - almost a no-brainer for some. Our next EV is definitely going through the business.
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