992 comes with "wet mode"

[goron59]

https://jalopnik.com/the-new-porsche-91 ... 1831486033

Though how the non-AWD 911s are supposed to become FWD biased, I don't know

[VanB]

IMHO a load of baloney as the Americans would say. Well spotted, Goron - I doubt a 2WD Carrera (the vast majority) has any chance of delivering more to the front wheels! Also, it's the width of the tyre, not the diameter that is the important factor in aquaplaning. Wet mode = pointless if the driver is experienced and sensible.

[Col Lamb]

IMHO a load of baloney as the Americans would say. Well spotted, Goron - I doubt a 2WD Carrera (the vast majority) has any chance of delivering more to the front wheels! Also, it's the width of the tyre, not the diameter that is the important factor in aquaplaning. Wet mode = pointless if the driver is experienced and sensible.

But surely the majority of 911 owners are not ....... experienced and sensible.

If they were then the driver aids would not be necessary

The majority drive a status badge, pure and simple, the minority of keen and able drivers frequent forums like this.

Remember in the eighties and nineties the numpties with new cash were crashing or loosing the back end of their 911 cars because the thickness of their wallets matched the thickness of their driving ability.

Its the electronic aids that are now inbuilt that stop far more accidents happening.

If you have been to the PEC you cannot help but observe at the limited driving abilty shown by the vast number of drivers on the tracks.

[VanB]

Actually, Col I would suggest that the vast majority of 911 owners are both experienced and sensible which is how they came to be in a 911 in the first place. It is a minority that has more money than sense at a young age who go out and thrash their cars in inappropriate conditions because they have neither sufficient experience nor common sense.

A couple of years ago a PEC instructor told me about a new 911 driver who was trying to make a warranty claim because he trashed his car when aquaplaning. Sorry - big fat tyres, wet weather and too much speed does not lead to a warranty claim. Apparently, his argument was that the car was unfit for purpose. My argument would be that he is a complete bellend who should probably have his license taken off him.

[Col Lamb]

Actually, Col I would suggest that the vast majority of 911 owners are both experienced and sensible which is how they came to be in a 911 in the first place. It is a minority that has more money than sense at a young age who go out and thrash their cars in inappropriate conditions because they have neither sufficient experience nor common sense.

A couple of years ago a PEC instructor told me about a new 911 driver who was trying to make a warranty claim because he trashed his car when aquaplaning. Sorry - big fat tyres, wet weather and too much speed does not lead to a warranty claim. Apparently, his argument was that the car was unfit for purpose. My argument would be that he is a complete bellend who should probably have his license taken off him.

So now we know why Porsche are developing the systems, precisely for numpties like the guy you quote.

[Paul]

The big flaw in the system is that “it will alert the driver to activate this mode”

So when the car detects that conditions are becoming slippy underfoot, water on the road etc etc a warning light will ping up and the weak link in the chain (the driver) will need to make a conscious effort to push a button.

Those owners who are aware of their surrounding / conditions / capabilities will have already taken appropriate measure and slowed down. Those who need a warning light to tell them its raining hard will either ignore it or take the car back to the dealership complaining of the warning light

[Kasfranks99]

I read about this mode when the 992 was announced but I didn’t realise it was manually operated once you were alerted.

I think it would of been better for it to come on automatically once it defected enough water and if you are silly enough you can turn it off....
Nothing is better that a sensible driver who understands conditions and adapts to them but I welcome the extra assistance.

This article explains a bit more.

https://www.autonews.com/blogs/porsche- ... quaplaning

[Wing Commander]

But surely the majority of 911 owners are not ....... experienced and sensible.

If they were then the driver aids would not be necessary

The majority drive a status badge, pure and simple, the minority of keen and able drivers frequent forums like this.

Remember in the eighties and nineties the numpties with new cash were crashing or loosing the back end of their 911 cars because the thickness of their wallets matched the thickness of their driving ability.

Its the electronic aids that are now inbuilt that stop far more accidents happening.

If you have been to the PEC you cannot help but observe at the limited driving abilty shown by the vast number of drivers on the tracks.

Oh, here we go again! Yet another category of owners who are just driving a badge!!

[smithy37]

IMHO a load of baloney as the Americans would say. Well spotted, Goron - I doubt a 2WD Carrera (the vast majority) has any chance of delivering more to the front wheels! Also, it's the width of the tyre, not the diameter that is the important factor in aquaplaning. Wet mode = pointless if the driver is experienced and sensible.

But surely the majority of 911 owners are not ....... experienced and sensible.

If they were then the driver aids would not be necessary

The majority drive a status badge, pure and simple, the minority of keen and able drivers frequent forums like this.

Remember in the eighties and nineties the numpties with new cash were crashing or loosing the back end of their 911 cars because the thickness of their wallets matched the thickness of their driving ability.

Its the electronic aids that are now inbuilt that stop far more accidents happening.

If you have been to the PEC you cannot help but observe at the limited driving abilty shown by the vast number of drivers on the tracks.

You been watching me at the PEC?

The driving instructor asked me what I wanted to get from my experience. I said to become a more accomplished driver. He spent the next three hours “shouting” at me. I did ask! Pandora’s box springs to mind.

Thoroughly enjoyable experience & inevitably I learned a lot.