Tesla Model 3 motor issues

[Col Lamb]

Why is it that so much reliance is made on 0-60 times.

In the real world we do not do acceleration runs (much, just the odd TLGP start).

Its the on the move acceleration that matters and that is something a decent EV should excel at.

[goron59]

People are conditioned to value measurable numbers over hard to quantify experience.

If we really liked brutal acceleration we’d be on rollercoasters all day.

[johnd]

Why is it that so much reliance is made on 0-60 times.

Don't most people want some metric that measures of the performance of the car in a single value? Personally I'd rather see 30-70 quoted as it dispenses with all the heroics of launch control etc, but it seems to be so rarely measured in reviews nowadays and typically isn't revealed by the manufacturer.

[Dandock]

Bloody ugly, but ok inside....

Really?

[Dandock]

Its Tesla being cheap,

I’m not sure I’d call the announced base price of €58000 cheap!

[CharlesElliott]

Whether I take delivery is probably going to be about flipping I’m afraid. If the market means I can flip the car then I will do so, otherwise I will probably get my deposit back. RHD Tesla deliveries are not going to be until H2 19 at the earliest and competition is increasing by the month.

In the US the wait hasn’t been so bad but I think it will end up being 4 years between order and delivery and that’s probably going to be too long for Tesla to compete.

[Dandock]

Whether I take delivery is probably going to be about flipping I’m afraid. If the market means I can flip the car then I will do so, otherwise I will probably get my deposit back. RHD Tesla deliveries are not going to be until H2 19 at the earliest and competition is increasing by the month.

In the US the wait hasn’t been so bad but I think it will end up being 4 years between order and delivery and that’s probably going to be too long for Tesla to compete.

That’s what happens when, lacking automotive manufacturing experience, you create a vehicle that may be electronically sophisticated but is technically complicated to build.

[VanB]

And is the route of Tesla’s problems

[Col Lamb]

Its Tesla being cheap,

I’m not sure I’d call the announced base price of €58000 cheap!

That is the point Mike.

Tesla are probably saving no more than a few hundred dollars on their choice of electric motor for the rear assembly compared to the much more modern and efficient motor fitted up front in the P versions and still charging a premium price for non premium systems.

It would make far more sense to design the whole of the Tesla range around the same rear motor, gearbox and drive system then to go the route of conventional manufacturers where the assemblies are different for each model and the variants within.

Eg
Macan, 5 different engine versions hence so much more complicated in design, compliance and manufacturing route.

[Deleted User 1874]

Whether I take delivery is probably going to be about flipping I’m afraid. If the market means I can flip the car then I will do so, otherwise I will probably get my deposit back. RHD Tesla deliveries are not going to be until H2 19 at the earliest and competition is increasing by the month.

In the US the wait hasn’t been so bad but I think it will end up being 4 years between order and delivery and that’s probably going to be too long for Tesla to compete.

What competition are you considering instead of a Model 3? I don't see any if you want one in the next 12 months.