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Paul wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 pm 👍
“ Porsche parking!”
Yep! :lol:
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Paul wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 pm 👍
“ Porsche parking!”
And deliberately so. Saw the huge space and couldn’t resist. I knew you guys would appreciate it.
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Wing Commander wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:07 pm
Peteski wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:48 pm
Dandock wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:05 pm I love the idea of it but it is oh so firm, particularly on the appalling roads through Cheltenham. And very noisy even without the sports exhaust turned on. Maybe I’m getting old. 😫
yep, another great car compromised by oversized bling wheels :lol:

But the wheels look SO good! And Porsche know it! Which is why virtually all the publicity shots of new models, and the demos that journalists are given to drive, mostly have the biggest wheels. And often concept/prototype cars go one step further & feature over-sized wheels. Not to mention the recent Porsche trend to drop the suspension artificially low on cars at motor shows (e.g. Panamera and Cayenne). :ugeek:
Having been in the publicity business and done work for JLR I know that rationale only too well but as potential customer what you see if very definitely not what you probably need.
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Wing Commander wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:07 pm
Peteski wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:48 pm
Dandock wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:05 pm I love the idea of it but it is oh so firm, particularly on the appalling roads through Cheltenham. And very noisy even without the sports exhaust turned on. Maybe I’m getting old. 😫
yep, another great car compromised by oversized bling wheels :lol:

But the wheels look SO good! And Porsche know it! Which is why virtually all the publicity shots of new models, and the demos that journalists are given to drive, mostly have the biggest wheels. And often concept/prototype cars go one step further & feature over-sized wheels. Not to mention the recent Porsche trend to drop the suspension artificially low on cars at motor shows (e.g. Panamera and Cayenne). :ugeek:
Yeah, all done for marketing and it's what the public demand. Can't really blame Porsche for that. But not great for those who actually want the best ride/handling experience possible. Performance tyres have obviously followed those trends too and for the same cosmetic reasons and not ultimate performance. It's one of those classic cases where engineering has to compensate as best it can for prevailing styling trends.
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Why do I like the look of a Cayman more than a 911?

Enjoy the drive.
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Wing Commander wrote:
Peteski wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:48 pm
Dandock wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:05 pm I love the idea of it but it is oh so firm, particularly on the appalling roads through Cheltenham. And very noisy even without the sports exhaust turned on. Maybe I’m getting old. [emoji31]
yep, another great car compromised by oversized bling wheels :lol:

But the wheels look SO good! And Porsche know it! Which is why virtually all the publicity shots of new models, and the demos that journalists are given to drive, mostly have the biggest wheels. And often concept/prototype cars go one step further & feature over-sized wheels. Not to mention the recent Porsche trend to drop the suspension artificially low on cars at motor shows (e.g. Panamera and Cayenne). :ugeek:
Dropping the suspension is particularly annoying. It’s the same on the configurator vs reality.


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Hawkeye wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:31 pm
Wing Commander wrote:
Peteski wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:48 pm

yep, another great car compromised by oversized bling wheels :lol:

But the wheels look SO good! And Porsche know it! Which is why virtually all the publicity shots of new models, and the demos that journalists are given to drive, mostly have the biggest wheels. And often concept/prototype cars go one step further & feature over-sized wheels. Not to mention the recent Porsche trend to drop the suspension artificially low on cars at motor shows (e.g. Panamera and Cayenne). :ugeek:
Dropping the suspension is particularly annoying. It’s the same on the configurator vs reality.


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It does seem incredibly low. I'm just about to venture out into the weather back to OPC which means entering car from a snow-covered pavement. Should be fun! :shock: :?
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Good luck, Mike...! :)
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Had 20" rims on my 981 and never suffered from poor ride or handling. Got 21" on the SD and feel the same about them. I did run an Exige S as a daily for 3 years, so maybe my sensory parameters are skewed?
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nsm3 wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:53 pm Had 20" rims on my 981 and never suffered from poor ride or handling. Got 21" on the SD and feel the same about them. I did run an Exige S as a daily for 3 years, so maybe my sensory parameters are skewed?
It is what you get used to. Everyone complains about the state of our roads while driving around with o-rings for tyres. As I said, Porsche do well with ride quality, but it's all relative. But aside from what your bum feels, the suspension components and mounts get much more of a beating too with large wheels. There is no doubt among vehicle engineers that more sensible wheel/tyre sizes are better in pretty much every respect, but people just like the look of big wheels and don't care about or understand the compromises involved. So the manufacturers do the best job they can with complex suspension and damping systems to compensate for the increased unsprung weight and lack of tyre compliance.
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