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Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:59 am
by r1flyguy
Hi All

Been working away for a while and car has sat unused for the past 7 weeks maybe. Car was cleaned and had no issues when i left it.

Arrived back into the UK yesterday and thought i would give the car a run and top up the tank...

A quick checkover and I can't say i 'noticed' more like it is jumps up at you but what the hell is going on with the headlights

ImageRight Light by Gary ORourke, on Flickr

Imageleft Light by Gary ORourke, on Flickr

Anyone with any ideas??

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:05 am
by BigPhil
It looks to me like a sudden temperature change has caused crazing inside, as if it's a laminated lens that's got really hot then had cold water poured over it.

I must admit, I've never seen anything like that previously. My LED lights fog inside the lens in winter but i've put that down to the LEDS not providing enough heat to burn off condensation.

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:09 am
by r1flyguy
The car has been sat on my drive where it has for the last 4 years and subject to the UK weather so nothing has changed and I can guarantee that my wash techniques are somewhat OCD so Hot & Cold water would NOT happen :)

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:05 pm
by Miopyk
Seems to be a common problem on 718s and many have been fixed under warranty.

https://www.718forum.com/threads/keep-a ... 718.19381/

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:16 pm
by r1flyguy
Miopyk wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:05 pm Seems to be a common problem on 718s and many have been fixed under warranty.

https://www.718forum.com/threads/keep-a ... 718.19381/
Thanks for that
I’m taking the 991 in for completion of its service & a recall tomorrow and SWMBO will pick me up in the Macan so will bring this to their attention and see what happens.

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:44 am
by r1flyguy
Apparently Porsche class this as a ‘visual defect’ and thus it’s not covered under the extended warranty but only under the manufactures warranty i.e the first 3 years.

Quite frankly I find it amazing that they think this is acceptable!!
You can spend £10k on a mini or the like and not have this but spend £50k plus on a Porsche and they seem to make up all manner of excuses to avoid admitting they have cheap manufacturing processes which will result in these ‘visual defects’

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:52 am
by Toddie
That’s appalling, which car is this on Macan or 991?

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:11 am
by r1flyguy
My 2015 Macan DS
As a point of note it has Full OPC service history, Extended Warranty, only 25k on the clock, regularly washed & waxed with care.
I purchased it when it was about 6 months old and 9k miles

In my near 4 year ownership due to mechanical defects it’s had
New PDK Box
New steering unit
New panoramic roof cassette
New ACC Camera

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:33 pm
by Miopyk
r1flyguy wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:44 am Apparently Porsche class this as a ‘visual defect’ and thus it’s not covered under the extended warranty but only under the manufactures warranty i.e the first 3 years.

Quite frankly I find it amazing that they think this is acceptable!!
You can spend £10k on a mini or the like and not have this but spend £50k plus on a Porsche and they seem to make up all manner of excuses to avoid admitting they have cheap manufacturing processes which will result in these ‘visual defects’
That's the second lot of tosh I've heard from an OPC on these boards today. I think I'd be onto Porsche GB. And I'd be asking said dealer to show you where in the warranty documentation it says this type of defect is specifically excluded.

Re: Headlight lenses WTF is happening?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:37 pm
by Paul
Did Happy Days not have something similar on his 718 a while back?