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Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:35 pm
by GTB
Hi SAC1,

Without wanting to fall out with any of my clients! I would only ever consider two retailers and premium fuels and thats bp Ultimate as my first choice, then Shell Optimax. In all my 40 years working in the filling station arena I nor my family never ever by fuel from a supermarket retailer, so take from that what you will.

bp and Shell have what they call COCO sites in other words company owned and operated, so my preference would always be to buy your premium fuel from one of those stations simply becuase of the good "Housekeeping" regarding their fuel infrastructure. Now both those companies also have dealer operators and they also sell fuel to private filling station owners/operators (DODO's) No they are not extinct just a dealer owned dealer operated site that has an agreement to sell bp or Shell fuel and in return they will brand the filling station so out of the approx 1200 bp sites across the UK just short of 300 are only COCO sites.

Where things tend to go wrong and motorists have issues and something we all need to remember is the EN Standard for both regular and super unleaded fuel across Europe and in the UK has pretty tight tolerances of the make up of that fuel, even the unique additives each fuel retailer uses has pretty tight standards to follow. So why does it all go wrong?? and we hear of garages with poor reputations or motorists saying their car runs on one retailers fuel better than others, is basically down to good housekeeping on site, particularly dealing with water content for those that use Diesel fuels. So in some ways the filling stations mostly get a good "Fillet" steak delivered to site, just that some have perfect sterile and hygenic operations and maintenance on their fridges to keep it in, others just throw it in the firdge they have always had and hey ho it works, and for some out there they cant even be bothered putting the steak in the fridge and leave it out on the worktop!! so the question is which of these restaurants would you want a steak in?
So back to our cars, where would you rather get your fuel from?

Cheers GTB

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:54 pm
by SAC1
Thanks for your reply Gareth.

I use Shell V-power in my GTS from a fairly new site that also houses a Budgens supermarket and a Greggs. Don't know ouf it's COCO or DODO, but a big investment if a privateer.

Several on our Forum members are now using Esso as the best premium petrol. I note you do not mention Esso.

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:00 pm
by Nuclear Nick
By Optimax, do you mean V Power currently Gareth?

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:03 pm
by Neil1911
Seems petrol and real ale have a huge amount in common and that includes the tax burden! Yes, knowing who owns what seems to be the trick..

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:05 pm
by GTB
Nuclear Nick wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:00 pm By Optimax, do you mean V Power currently Gareth?
Yes Nick,

My Fault V Power in the UK, as they still have Optimax in some regions of the world.

GTB

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:30 pm
by On-Track
SAC1 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:54 pm Thanks for your reply Gareth.

I use Shell V-power in my GTS from a fairly new site that also houses a Budgens supermarket and a Greggs. Don't know ouf it's COCO or DODO, but a big investment if a privateer.

Several on our Forum members are now using Esso as the best premium petrol. I note you do not mention Esso.
It's also down to availability. My nearest Shell station is a 22 mile round trip away whereas I have an Esso station just 4 mile round trip. Fortunately, I live in a part of the country where Esso 98 RON is reported to be Ethanol free.

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:48 pm
by pmg
On-Track wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:30 pm
SAC1 wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:54 pm Thanks for your reply Gareth.

I use Shell V-power in my GTS from a fairly new site that also houses a Budgens supermarket and a Greggs. Don't know ouf it's COCO or DODO, but a big investment if a privateer.

Several on our Forum members are now using Esso as the best premium petrol. I note you do not mention Esso.
It's also down to availability. My nearest Shell station is a 22 mile round trip away whereas I have an Esso station just 4 mile round trip. Fortunately, I live in a part of the country where Esso 98 RON is reported to be Ethanol free.
Very true, as a regular visitor to Mid wales I do not think there is a Shell V power Station between Menai Bridge in the North and Crickhowell nearly in the South. There is an Esso near Dolgellau and a BP in the hills behind Aberystwyth, Other than that its Tesco Momentum 99 at Newtown, Portmadoc and Bangor

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:06 pm
by RAA
I thought the Esso Supreme Unleaded was 99 RON when I last filled up.

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:16 pm
by pmg
RAA wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:06 pm I thought the Esso Supreme Unleaded was 99 RON when I last filled up.
It is except in North wales, some other parts of the north and far South West (?) where still 97

Re: E10 fuel

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:23 pm
by Nick the Greek
RAA wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:06 pm I thought the Esso Supreme Unleaded was 99 RON when I last filled up.
It is, along with Shell, and I believe Tesco. Personally a Shell man. Run all my cars and bikes on V Power.