Panoramic Roof Weight

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Nelladrahcir wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:36 am Pano roof is really nice................If your sitting in the back seats!

Sit in a pano car and then a panoless car and look at the road. I found there is barely any difference for the driver/front passenger so didn't bother.

Maybe better in sunnier climes?

BTW 25% don't have pano.

SEs really push them along with BOSE for resale. You then spend an extra £2k on these items. Resale or commission.

I did speak to OPC techs re leaks and they did day it was generally GEN1 cars but I stand to be corrected on that.

And they are considerably heavier. Whether you would notice that I doubt as it will be on your car, or not, all the time!!!!
Exactly my thoughts, my back seat gets used about once a year , so no pano
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Col Lamb wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:44 am Find a Macan without a pano and take it out on a test drive.

I did just that, it was very dark and gloomy inside for my own tastes.
Or alternatively just close the blind for the duration of the test drive.

My OPC (Mid Sussex) has given me nearly 4 hrs of test drives in a Base and 2 Gen 3 S models so I could confirm my spec. All had black interiors and I spent all the time with the blind closed. From the front seat it made no difference to acceptability but if the rear seats are in constant use then it can get a bit gloomy with black interior. But then again privacy glass doesn't help gloominess in the rear and I also found the pano roof clipped headroom for the rear passengers.

Must admit I hadn’t thought about the extra weight carried but imagine you are talking in the 50kg+ category so not far off an additional passenger.
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Madelvic, many thanks for the link. It is always useful to have such info when talking to the dealer about rectification work. AllanG thank you for sharing your experience. Wing comander thank you for your welcome. My macan spec is base with crayon/agate interior, privacy glass, rear camera, large tank and space saver. I was also pleasantly surprised to find the car came with Michelin PIlot Sport 4 NEO spec tyres.
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Enjoy! :)
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macanese wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:39 am My first post. I picked up my base macan gen 3 on 1st December. I chose not to have pano roof so saving weight and the first year tax was £1345 as opposed to £1945 saving £600. A pleasant surprise! Also as I chose agate grey interior to go with crayon bodywork. this lightens the interior compared to standard black so I do not miss the pano lightening effect. Only issue with car is the poor fit of the bonnet to front wings which I understand from the forum can be adjusted to minimise the current overlap of a few milimetres. Any body had experience of these adjustments and their effectiveness?
That’s interesting. A £600 saving is not to be sniffed at. The standard combined Co2 for the 2.0 Macan is 228g/km under WLTP. To get the lower first year rate the CO2 would need to be below 226g/km. I can’t recall anyone else saying that their car qualified for the lower rate.
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Just looked at the gen 3 Macan 2.0 for sale with Porsche Edinburgh which states that it has a CO2 of 199g km and the car has a pan roof. It’s very odd that on the configurator the combined CO2 for the model is 228g . I will ask my dealer for the WLTP CO2 for my car when it arrives. It would be nice if most 2.0 Macans came in at under 226g/km with or without pan roof
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mark-yorkshire wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:57 pm Just looked at the gen 3 Macan 2.0 for sale with Porsche Edinburgh which states that it has a CO2 of 199g km and the car has a pan roof. It’s very odd that on the configurator the combined CO2 for the model is 228g . I will ask my dealer for the WLTP CO2 for my car when it arrives. It would be nice if most 2.0 Macans came in at under 226g/km with or without pan roof
Would wheel size be the point of difference here?
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mark-yorkshire wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:42 pm
macanese wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:39 am My first post. I picked up my base macan gen 3 on 1st December. I chose not to have pano roof so saving weight and the first year tax was £1345 as opposed to £1945 saving £600. A pleasant surprise! Also as I chose agate grey interior to go with crayon bodywork. this lightens the interior compared to standard black so I do not miss the pano lightening effect. Only issue with car is the poor fit of the bonnet to front wings which I understand from the forum can be adjusted to minimise the current overlap of a few milimetres. Any body had experience of these adjustments and their effectiveness?
That’s interesting. A £600 saving is not to be sniffed at. The standard combined Co2 for the 2.0 Macan is 228g/km under WLTP. To get the lower first year rate the CO2 would need to be below 226g/km. I can’t recall anyone else saying that their car qualified for the lower rate.
Would a pano roof affect this? If so, surely pano roof would give higher CO2, as it makes the car heavier?

I can see how wheel size may affect CO2, and have heard of this before.

I wonder if speccing the larger fuel tank affects CO2, as it potentially makes the car heavier, with a full tank?
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Overall weight - inc. any optional extras. Wheel size - rolling resistance with wider tyres incrementally from 18" to 21" - will all affect the g/kg rating of the CO2 band.
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SAC1 wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:14 pm Overall weight - inc. any optional extras. Wheel size - rolling resistance with wider tyres incrementally from 18" to 21" - will all affect the g/kg rating of the CO2 band.

So a ‘basic’ 2.0 would have the lowest CO2 rating: standard wheels, no pano, no upgraded 14 or 18 way seats, no larger fuel tank, in fact no options that add a gram in weight. ;)
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