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Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:04 am
by Col Lamb
My intention is to certainly use an OPC for everything during the warranty period.

It does not matter the make of the car it just makes sense to me to stick with a full. official dealer for the simple reason of minimising any warranty issues.

One option in the future or now if you are not bothered about warranty or trade in cost is to use an Independent specialist.

The one doubt that I have with using an independent is that there are far more integrated computerised systems in all makes today and at what level can said independents access, correct or even update system settings?

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:42 am
by VanB
The service cost is a lot for what they actually do but not as much as you would lose on sale by not having the Porsche stamp in your service book. Actually, my wife's Q5 costs more to service over the same period it's just that I don't pay it in one go.

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm
by MCDK
I will be using the main dealer for all work but will economise on costs wherever possible. If there is £100 to save then I will do it and would question anyone not wanting to do that. It's the same oil so no issue whatsoever. For those that don't see my logic then why not supply your own oil next time but leave five £20 notes on the passenger seat when you next leave your car in for service as a little extra for Porsche . Same idea.

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:01 pm
by Rab J
MCDK wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm I will be using the main dealer for all work but will economise on costs wherever possible. If there is £100 to save then I will do it and would question anyone not wanting to do that. It's the same oil so no issue whatsoever. For those that don't see my logic then why not supply your own oil next time but leave five £20 notes on the passenger seat when you next leave your car in for service as a little extra for Porsche . Same idea.
You'll never get to GT3 heaven by leaving a couple of gallons of oil in the passengers footwell for the service ;)

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:15 pm
by Col Lamb
MCDK wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm I will be using the main dealer for all work but will economise on costs wherever possible. If there is £100 to save then I will do it and would question anyone not wanting to do that. It's the same oil so no issue whatsoever. For those that don't see my logic then why not supply your own oil next time but leave five £20 notes on the passenger seat when you next leave your car in for service as a little extra for Porsche . Same idea.
Just keep your fingers crossed that you have no engine issues.

If you do then you know that potentially the OPC will say that your oil was not bought from an approved supplier hance your warranty is not valid.

Please come back and advise if the Service Stamp in the log book or in the paperwork includes text that states uou have supplied the oil.

Even if nothing is annotated that you see you can bet that the Porsche GB records will be annotated accordingly and this will reflect in what an OPC will likely offer in trade in.

I for one would never buy a Porsche without a top notch service record and any records that indicate non Porsche supplied parts or fluids would not be top notch in my book.

It is simple, if the person who owned the car that I have become interested in yet they did not maintain it correctly then that car is not going to be bought by me.

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:02 pm
by Guy
Gosh how our US brethren (at www.macanforum.com) would laugh at some of the paranoia expressed in this thread!

Some of us couldn't afford to buy a Porsche in the first place unless we looked for ways to avoid throwing money away!

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:15 pm
by Nosmo
Col Lamb wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:15 pm
MCDK wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm I will be using the main dealer for all work but will economise on costs wherever possible. If there is £100 to save then I will do it and would question anyone not wanting to do that. It's the same oil so no issue whatsoever. For those that don't see my logic then why not supply your own oil next time but leave five £20 notes on the passenger seat when you next leave your car in for service as a little extra for Porsche . Same idea.
Just keep your fingers crossed that you have no engine issues.

If you do then you know that potentially the OPC will say that your oil was not bought from an approved supplier hance your warranty is not valid.

Please come back and advise if the Service Stamp in the log book or in the paperwork includes text that states uou have supplied the oil.

Even if nothing is annotated that you see you can bet that the Porsche GB records will be annotated accordingly and this will reflect in what an OPC will likely offer in trade in.

I for one would never buy a Porsche without a top notch service record and any records that indicate non Porsche supplied parts or fluids would not be top notch in my book.

It is simple, if the person who owned the car that I have become interested in yet they did not maintain it correctly then that car is not going to be bought by me.
Col - The extension of that argument, if I may, is that all classic Porsche's on the road today, serviced throughout the 70s, 80,s, 90s and early 00s should be shunned (and shouldn't be worth much) because someone sometime during its life has used "halfords'-own" oil and filters during one of the many services it has had. People don't shun any of these cars. It is the inflated (?) price paid which makes people belief that a £90 litre of oil is going to be better than a £30 equivalent. I might be way out by the following statement but after the warranty period you're on your own as far as any car company is concerned (bar the usual caveats and "goodwill"). As stated in the thread earlier. After the warrany period, and depending on how long someone wants to keep the car, any self respecting independent will do. These independents have repeat trade because of their level of knowledge, service and friendly approach to their repeat trade. Granted it's Kenko at best served in plastic whilst seated on a plastic school chair rather than fresh bean roast d'or on the faux leather coach...

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:32 pm
by MCDK
Col I think you missed my earlier posts. The dealer made it clear they are happy to fit my own oil so long as it's Mobil 1 to the spec they ask. If it isn't they simply won't use it so there is no issue down the line of them saying it wasn't correct.

Some of you guys really are doom and gloom merchants ;)

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:59 pm
by Col Lamb
Nosmo wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:15 pm
Col Lamb wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:15 pm
MCDK wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm I will be using the main dealer for all work but will economise on costs wherever possible. If there is £100 to save then I will do it and would question anyone not wanting to do that. It's the same oil so no issue whatsoever. For those that don't see my logic then why not supply your own oil next time but leave five £20 notes on the passenger seat when you next leave your car in for service as a little extra for Porsche . Same idea.
Just keep your fingers crossed that you have no engine issues.

If you do then you know that potentially the OPC will say that your oil was not bought from an approved supplier hance your warranty is not valid.

Please come back and advise if the Service Stamp in the log book or in the paperwork includes text that states uou have supplied the oil.

Even if nothing is annotated that you see you can bet that the Porsche GB records will be annotated accordingly and this will reflect in what an OPC will likely offer in trade in.

I for one would never buy a Porsche without a top notch service record and any records that indicate non Porsche supplied parts or fluids would not be top notch in my book.

It is simple, if the person who owned the car that I have become interested in yet they did not maintain it correctly then that car is not going to be bought by me.
Col - The extension of that argument, if I may, is that all classic Porsche's on the road today, serviced throughout the 70s, 80,s, 90s and early 00s should be shunned (and shouldn't be worth much) because someone sometime during its life has used "halfords'-own" oil and filters during one of the many services it has had. People don't shun any of these cars. It is the inflated (?) price paid which makes people belief that a £90 litre of oil is going to be better than a £30 equivalent. I might be way out by the following statement but after the warranty period you're on your own as far as any car company is concerned (bar the usual caveats and "goodwill"). As stated in the thread earlier. After the warrany period, and depending on how long someone wants to keep the car, any self respecting independent will do. These independents have repeat trade because of their level of knowledge, service and friendly approach to their repeat trade. Granted it's Kenko at best served in plastic whilst seated on a plastic school chair rather than fresh bean roast d'or on the faux leather coach...
I am certainly aware of classic sports models but they are not relevant in this discussion

In any case there is no warranty on these old sports cars and they are not cluttered by very sophisticated computerised systems,

In a couple of years time a Macan with full service history is going to be more desirable than one with a chequered past.

A Macan is a workhorse not a garage queen that is the classic 911 that is only going to see weekend service for the vast majority of owners.

Re: Macan GTS first service

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:10 am
by MCDK
Rab J wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:01 pm
MCDK wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm I will be using the main dealer for all work but will economise on costs wherever possible. If there is £100 to save then I will do it and would question anyone not wanting to do that. It's the same oil so no issue whatsoever. For those that don't see my logic then why not supply your own oil next time but leave five £20 notes on the passenger seat when you next leave your car in for service as a little extra for Porsche . Same idea.
You'll never get to GT3 heaven by leaving a couple of gallons of oil in the passengers footwell for the service ;)
This could well be true Rab :oops: but there may be a few more hurdles before getting to GT3 heaven.