Stop/Start & Hold Function

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Tom 2000
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Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by Tom 2000 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:53 pm

There does not seem to be a lot of love on here for Stop/Start.
I find it useful and sometimes annoying.
Does anyone else use the subtleties of the system?
1. Bring the vehicle to a Stop with soft brake, engine keeps running.
2. A slightly firmer action and the engine cuts to restart on releasing brake pressure.
3. A firm secondary action to fully engage Stop/Start and vehicle Hold, accelerator pressure required to start engine.
I havent read the Manual to see if these are recommended actions or just holes in the system.
Generally I find it all very useful.
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by Tall Phil » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:04 pm

Working as designed.

Strange really. Plenty of innovative applications of tech but not well explained by Porsche. There seems to be a given that learning will take place on-the-job.
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by Tom 2000 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:08 pm

A bit like an Apple iPhone.
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by Nosmo » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:47 pm

Tom 2000 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:53 pm
There does not seem to be a lot of love on here for Stop/Start.
I find it useful and sometimes annoying.
Does anyone else use the subtleties of the system?
1. Bring the vehicle to a Stop with soft brake, engine keeps running.
2. A slightly firmer action and the engine cuts to restart on releasing brake pressure.
3. A firm secondary action to fully engage Stop/Start and vehicle Hold, accelerator pressure required to start engine.
I havent read the Manual to see if these are recommended actions or just holes in the system.
Generally I find it all very useful.
And a slight steering input will also start the system again. Handy if you are at a roundabout and want to keep it running...
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by goron59 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:19 am

Tom 2000 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:53 pm
There does not seem to be a lot of love on here for Stop/Start.
I find it useful and sometimes annoying.
Does anyone else use the subtleties of the system?
1. Bring the vehicle to a Stop with soft brake, engine keeps running.
2. A slightly firmer action and the engine cuts to restart on releasing brake pressure.
3. A firm secondary action to fully engage Stop/Start and vehicle Hold, accelerator pressure required to start engine.
I havent read the Manual to see if these are recommended actions or just holes in the system.
Generally I find it all very useful.
Yea, that's how I use it.
It's only people who treat the brake pedal as an on-off switch (or generally leaden footed) that complain about it "cutting out all the time."
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by goron59 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:20 am

Tall Phil wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:04 pm
Working as designed.

Strange really. Plenty of innovative applications of tech but not well explained by Porsche. There seems to be a given that learning will take place on-the-job.
Did it really need explaining though? I figured it out on my first Macan test drive.
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by On-Track » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:54 pm

Tom 2000 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:53 pm
There does not seem to be a lot of love on here for Stop/Start.
I find it useful and sometimes annoying.
Does anyone else use the subtleties of the system?
1. Bring the vehicle to a Stop with soft brake, engine keeps running.
2. A slightly firmer action and the engine cuts to restart on releasing brake pressure.
3. A firm secondary action to fully engage Stop/Start and vehicle Hold, accelerator pressure required to start engine.
I havent read the Manual to see if these are recommended actions or just holes in the system.
Generally I find it all very useful.
A further variation occurs if you stop on a gradient. You get a combination of 2 and 3 in that Hold engages without the secondary push. This caught me out on a hill in Totnes. When you press the accelerator, Hold cuts out and the car rolls back a couple of inches in the time it takes for the engine (diesel in my case) to start and take up drive. These days, if I come to a stand on a steep gradient I either override Stop/Start or engage the parking brake.
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by andreas » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 pm

I find that Hold doesn't always work.
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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by Guy » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:46 pm

andreas wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 pm
I find that Hold doesn't always work.
It's a 'quick' press on the brake (rather than a 'firm' press) that works for me (and I thought it was that way by design).


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Re: Stop/Start & Hold Function

Post by ricardoespana » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:13 am

Does it stay off permanently if i turn it off and update comfort memory?
Tom 2000 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:53 pm
There does not seem to be a lot of love on here for Stop/Start.
I find it useful and sometimes annoying.
Does anyone else use the subtleties of the system?
1. Bring the vehicle to a Stop with soft brake, engine keeps running.
2. A slightly firmer action and the engine cuts to restart on releasing brake pressure.
3. A firm secondary action to fully engage Stop/Start and vehicle Hold, accelerator pressure required to start engine.
I havent read the Manual to see if these are recommended actions or just holes in the system.
Generally I find it all very useful.


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