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I have read that out of the 310,000 Macans built some 100,000 have found a home in China.

Not sure the breakdown on engines but certainly in the USA zero SDs have been sold.

One thing is certain, I am glad I got rid of my SD when I did.
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Seems strange Diesel Macans un popular when up with me in Scotland main dealer can't get enough of them and are actively trying try to buy stock offering way above book price.
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I gather they’re popular in Northern Ireland too... :)
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Back in the mid 70s after many years of hard work my Dad ordered his first Mercedes Benz. In those days they were seen as serious status symbol as they were heavily over engineered, not very common and relatively expensive. He waited a year for it to arrive and when it did he couldn't get the smile off his face for months. But he was hooked and never drove anything else. As time when by though he realised that the brand gradually lost its cachet, the quality was no longer what it was and they were almost as common as Ford's, Vauxhall's and the like. He kept his last Merc for nearly 10 years simply because he no longer wanted to invest any more money in a brand that he no longer felt was special.

I could see the same thing happening with Porsche. They are one of the Golden Egg Laying Gooses in the VW Group and they have been set on a road to chase volume over exclusivity and while the perceived quality is still there this will erode over time in the same way it did at Mercedes, BMW and Audi. Or at least that's how it will pan out if they continue chasing the numbers. Perhaps Dieselgate and the segregation of the Sports Car brands under Porsche management will prevent them falling into that trap and see them continue to build great cars in lower numbers to maintain quality, preserve residuals and keep their core customer base coming back for more.

I was one of the few early Macan owners that ordered a Petrol S when everyone else was ordering Diesel and remember having many interesting debates over that decision and whether one was better than the other. Don't get me wrong I understand the Diesel argument, I had a Diesel Mini Cooper and currently have a Diesel SLK purely for the economy/performance benefits they offered for my daily commute. But when I ordered both of my Macans I wanted Petrol engines because in my mind that's what a Porsche comes with and after more than 4 years driving them I'm more than happy with that decision. I hope they continue to build great cars for many years to come.
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A true Porsche engine is a flat 6 and also now a flat 4.

The current V6 in the panny is a collaboration with Audi, and I guess all the other previous petrol V's also share a past with Audi . So not really a genuine full Porsche product. Just like the Diesel!!
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Wing Commander wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:52 pm I gather they’re popular in Northern Ireland too... :)
They sure are. As an aside I understand Mercedes Belfast will sell petrol SUVs but 25 miles down the motorway the customers want diesels.
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Macananon wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:03 pm A true Porsche engine is a flat 6 and also now a flat 4.

The current V6 in the panny is a collaboration with Audi, and I guess all the other previous petrol V's also share a past with Audi . So not really a genuine full Porsche product. Just like the Diesel!!
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Is that the final stand on Porsche diesels then do we think? Makes sense to drop them, especially as they ramp up their EV program.
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Tom 2000 wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:22 pm
Wing Commander wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:52 pm I gather they’re popular in Northern Ireland too... :)
They sure are. As an aside I understand Mercedes Belfast will sell petrol SUVs but 25 miles down the motorway the customers want diesels.
Maybe if you sell a Diesel Macan private, but if you bring it to Porsche Belfast it is likely to feel otherwise.....
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Colscot wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:50 pm Seems strange Diesel Macans un popular when up with me in Scotland main dealer can't get enough of them and are actively trying try to buy stock offering way above book price.
I can understand that. If you are in a rural area then diesel still makes a lot of sense.
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