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robbie wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:13 pm
Uni11 wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:43 pm I picked up my 73 plate gts in October but the car arrived in September.
Now when I picked up the car from the dealership the oil service was showing September 2024 but the inspection service is 2 years in September 2025.
Now I know usually the car is 2 years or 20,00 miles from build. But this yearly oil service on the gen 3 gts is a bit annoying to say the least. But I’ve been told by 2 separate gen 3 gts owners that their oil services are 2 years or 20,000 miles.
When I took this up with the opc I am getting a whole load of different excuses.

Can any of you gen 3 gts owners please tell me if your oil service from new is either 1 year from build or 2 years. Thanks
The car telling you the oil change is due one year after collection is the default position as no engine oil monitoring has yet taken place, it is not until you start driving that it will then work this one of two ways, if you do lots of short journeys it will probably stay the same or come forward to less than a year for its first oil change, if you only do longer journeys then the engine oil monitoring system will gradually increase your oil service from the default 12 months towards 24 months so then both the oil change and first service can be done at the same point in time. Oil changes are decided purely on the type of driving you do not on any particular time period of say every 12 months etc.....
Every day is a school day I guess. I’ve only done 400 miles so far so I may need to wait and see then. Thanks

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i think 20 k is to much even for modern oils, change mine ever 10k
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gasgas1 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:26 pm i think 20 k is to much even for modern oils, change mine ever 10k
Do you have any solid basis for thinking that? Or is it just a suspicion? If automakers are happy to recommend 20K oil changes, presumably they're convinced that no damage will be caused by extended intervals. Some high-volume automakers switched to longer oil change intervals to satisfy fleetowners' demands for lower running costs, but you could hardly describe Porsche as a high-volume maker, so that's not the reason they went to 20K changes.
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andreas wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:38 pm
gasgas1 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:26 pm i think 20 k is to much even for modern oils, change mine ever 10k
Do you have any solid basis for thinking that? Or is it just a suspicion? If automakers are happy to recommend 20K oil changes, presumably they're convinced that no damage will be caused by extended intervals. Some high-volume automakers switched to longer oil change intervals to satisfy fleetowners' demands for lower running costs, but you could hardly describe Porsche as a high-volume maker, so that's not the reason they went to 20K changes.
I agree. And if Porsche thought that there was a benefit to oil changes every 10k miles, I’m sure they’d monetise that! ;)

Although strangely, I think in the US, they operate on 10k mile oil changes!? :?
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Mentioned before but 992 oil change is time only and is set to two years, regardless of driving style. I would have thought the 3.0 Porsche engine is as complex as the Macan 2.9 but may operate under slightly lesser loads?
Either way, I am torn between changing oil at 12 months anyway or just leaving it to when it is asked for at 2 years. Surely Porsche engineers know what they are talking about? 😂
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Waiting for Nuclear Nick and his reliable wisdom... :ugeek:
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Wing Commander wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:05 pm Waiting for Nuclear Nick and his reliable wisdom... :ugeek:
Yes indeed, Nicks advice is pretty much bullet proof and I think he has advised changing it anyway. I suppose the question is, what is the consequence of leaving it until asked for? A minor change in performance or catastrophic failure? 🤔
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On the advice of Porsche, and following the manual, most people will change oil every 20k miles or 2 years, whichever comes sooner. I think catastrophic failure is extremely unlikely, but if the cost is not an issue, I’m sure that the engine would appreciate an oil transfusion every 10k miles. ;)
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The point is all Porsches for the last 10 years + have had a 2 year 20,000 mile’s service schedule. And up to now there doesn’t seem to be too many issues regarding problems. Now if all the models were still on this schedule and you as an owner wishes to service your car on a yearly basis then that is your prerogative. However I do not want to get tied into a yearly bother with their rip off service prices every year, I’m happy to pay their £1000 or so every 2 years.
Now if I want, I can still do a oil change with parts at approximately £100 ( oil+filter) and pay a good indie say £50-100 and that’s me done without messing with the service schedule. No need to stamp the book and keep that for the official service at 2 year intervals. But to pay best part of £500 for a 1 year oil change and then get my pants pulled down at year 2 for £1000+ then rinse and repeat for the foreseeable is just another money maker for them.
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Uni11 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:02 pm The point is all Porsches for the last 10 years + have had a 2 year 20,000 mile’s service schedule. And up to now there doesn’t seem to be too many issues regarding problems. Now if all the models were still on this schedule and you as an owner wishes to service your car on a yearly basis then that is your prerogative. However I do not want to get tied into a yearly bother with their rip off service prices every year, I’m happy to pay their £1000 or so every 2 years.
Now if I want, I can still do a oil change with parts at approximately £100 ( oil+filter) and pay a good indie say £50-100 and that’s me done without messing with the service schedule. No need to stamp the book and keep that for the official service at 2 year intervals. But to pay best part of £500 for a 1 year oil change and then get my pants pulled down at year 2 for £1000+ then rinse and repeat for the foreseeable is just another money maker for them.
You have it by the nuts! Nicely summarised.
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